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Originally Posted by Yellowjj
(Post 35924966)
The -10 neither has MCAS or door plugs (might be the best one out the bunch tbh). If Delta pilots are going to be flying it without hesitation, then I have no hesitation of being a passenger. Unless they are having a mental break, no one is going to work on something they believe is unsafe.
The MAX has a tainted rep from MCAS (rightfully so), but this current issue is a QC one and imho has zero to do with the actual aircraft; other than it being the current production model. Could have easily been a 739, if those were still in production and Spirit Aerospace was slacking. Boeing will take the full blame, regardless of which subcontractor caused the issue and rectify it. |
Yellowjj
How do you know that the current issue has zero to do with the aircraft? |
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Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 35924996)
Yellowjj
How do you know that the current issue has zero to do with the aircraft? |
Originally Posted by Mountain Explorer
(Post 35924987)
We already knew that Boeing intentionally deceived regulators and pilots to avoid additional training. That is well documented. Now we also know that Boeing's contract manufacturers have QC issues too. That somehow makes things better?
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Originally Posted by Yellowjj
(Post 35925159)
How long has the 737 fuselage been built?
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Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 35925180)
Acceptable answers to this question range between 6 and ~800 (launch of 707 program) months. Regardless of what number you choose, I fail to see how this informs your certainty that the current issue has zero to do with the aircraft.
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Originally Posted by Yellowjj
(Post 35925216)
It's a door plug that has been introduced since 2007 in the 739. How would that equate to a specific aircraft (Max) issue? I fail to see the correlation between the two as the same fuselage, has been used for eons.
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Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 35925229)
I didn't make a connection between the length of time 737 fuselages have been built and the current issue...you did. I was simply curious about your logic in general and how you have employed it to draw a resolute conclusion.
So your question was puzzling at best. |
FAA "Urges" 737-900ER Inspections
The FAA has urged airlines operating the Boeing 737-900ER model should “visually inspect mid-exit door plugs to ensure the door is properly secured,” referring to the panel that plugs the hole where a mid-plane exit would be. “The Boeing 737-900ER is not part of the newer Max fleet but has the same door plug design,” the US aviation regulator added in what is known as a safety alert for operators Delta Air Lines told CNN Monday that they had already started inspections of their Boeing 737-900ER aircraft and did not anticipate any disruptions to operations. |
United basically writing off the Max 10, at least for the foreseeable future.
Kirby says "Best case 5 years behind original delivery" for the Max 10. "Building a plan that doesn't have the Max 10 in it" |
Originally Posted by Yellowjj
(Post 35925160)
Nowhere did I said it makes things better. I said if the pilots aren't worried about flying the aircraft, then I am not worried about stepping on it.
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The Max 10 does indeed have rear fusulage door plugs, it has too, it is longer than the Max9! It has different avionics software software than the Max 8 and 9 and therefore pilot training to deal with the MCAS will be different. Boeing got a cross-certification exemption via a corrupt congress. I hope delta cancels it's flying turd orders
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I'm never EVER entering a MAX plane in my life, on any airline.
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Originally Posted by Paul510
(Post 35936305)
The Max 10 does indeed have rear fusulage door plugs, it has too, it is longer than the Max9! It has different avionics software software than the Max 8 and 9 and therefore pilot training to deal with the MCAS will be different. Boeing got a cross-certification exemption via a corrupt congress. I hope delta cancels it's flying turd orders
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