First Class Meals - "FEBO"
May 21, 2022, 5:15 pm
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May 21, 2022, 5:33 pm
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Yeah, but why do it "randomly" or even with the appearance of randomness? What purpose does that serve?
Also, I agree, I wasn't trying to compare eastbound vs westbound to the flight number method, just noting for the sake of other airlines also change the order based on a strange criteria.
Also, I agree, I wasn't trying to compare eastbound vs westbound to the flight number method, just noting for the sake of other airlines also change the order based on a strange criteria.
May 21, 2022, 5:39 pm
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May 21, 2022, 5:40 pm
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The widebodies are off that route for the summer.
FEBO is their policy. Passengers should not have to remind crews what their policy is.
I have never seen a flight on this route where the vegetarian option ran out first. On the return ATL-PHX for lunch they had 3 choices and 2 were vegetarian (one was Impossible Burger). Even numbered flight and they started in the front. The odd numbered flights are really the true test of FEBO.
May 21, 2022, 5:46 pm
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It was the flight leader that gave me the points for running out of snack boxes without me asking for the points. That flight was a 767.
The widebodies are off that route for the summer.
FEBO is their policy. Passengers should not have to remind crews what their policy is.
I have never seen a flight on this route where the vegetarian option ran out first. On the return ATL-PHX for lunch they had 3 choices and 2 were vegetarian (one was Impossible Burger).
The widebodies are off that route for the summer.
FEBO is their policy. Passengers should not have to remind crews what their policy is.
I have never seen a flight on this route where the vegetarian option ran out first. On the return ATL-PHX for lunch they had 3 choices and 2 were vegetarian (one was Impossible Burger).
May 22, 2022, 3:20 am
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Why does it matter for FEBO that some routes use the same flight number in both directions? If roughly half of DL narrow body flights have odd numbers and half even numbers, then FEBO is a predictable way to take meal orders half of the time from the front and half of the time from the back. Hence on some flights, front seats will be more desirable and seats farther back will be more desirable on other flights. The system would still work as intended.
May 22, 2022, 4:16 am
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Why does it matter for FEBO that some routes use the same flight number in both directions? If roughly half of DL narrow body flights have odd numbers and half even numbers, then FEBO is a predictable way to take meal orders half of the time from the front and half of the time from the back. Hence on some flights, front seats will be more desirable and seats farther back will be more desirable on other flights. The system would still work as intended.
May 22, 2022, 5:06 am
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FEBO worked well because flight numbers used to be odd one direction and even the other. Most OAL still follow this. US airlines have been running out of numbers and resorted to same number both directions FEBO was designed so that one direction meals were from front, the other from back.
May 22, 2022, 5:27 am
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What objective would the one direction versus the other direction procedure satisfy? The idea is to have an easily understandable rule that results in roughly half of the narrow body flights taking meal orders from the front and roughly half from the back. Trying to use east/west or north/south just adds potential confusion, as would (for example) a to versus from the center of the country (STL?) rule. If you don't like flight numbers, we could use the last digit (odd versus even) of the segment's scheduled departure time, assuming that they're evenly distributed.
May 22, 2022, 8:31 am
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The whole point of FEBO was ensuring if you liked the front seats, you got meal preference one direction, if you like back seats you got it the other. Everyone flying RT got equal chance this way. FEBO was simply an easier acronym than FEBW or FWBE or BEFW or BWFE. Worked fine till airlines went to using same number roundtrip. They're still supposed to do the same thing as before, just based on east/west and north/south.
May 22, 2022, 9:18 am
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FEBO worked well because flight numbers used to be odd one direction and even the other. Most OAL still follow this. US airlines have been running out of numbers and resorted to same number both directions FEBO was designed so that one direction meals were from front, the other from back.
Like, the individual passengers are still able to select different seats on each flight, and most people don't just take the plane to a city and immediately fly back on the same plane.
In my experience, most routes where they use the same flight number in both directions are too short to have meal service anyway.
May 22, 2022, 9:29 am
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Currently limited to D1, plus select domestic F routes with upgraded service. Pre-order discussion has its own thread, keep an eye on that one for updates:
Pre-ordering Meals on Delta, the Definitive Thread
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May 22, 2022, 10:21 am
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The whole point of FEBO was ensuring if you liked the front seats, you got meal preference one direction, if you like back seats you got it the other. Everyone flying RT got equal chance this way. FEBO was simply an easier acronym than FEBW or FWBE or BEFW or BWFE. Worked fine till airlines went to using same number roundtrip. They're still supposed to do the same thing as before, just based on east/west and north/south.
May 23, 2022, 5:54 am
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While I understand that the cabin crew does not necessarily have this information, a system that gave priority for ordering to someone who had paid for the FC seat weeks ago vs. someone who had been upgraded in the last 5 days or at the gate would be the fairest. I have certainly seen situations where non-revs were given the last choices, mostly on long haul D1 flights.