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Originally Posted by ATOBTTR
(Post 33808092)
Hopefully DL believes the OP's letter/complaint. One problem with this is that OP's boarding pass was scanned as 10C at the gate. The seat swap happened onboard and was done "off the books" by the FA. Unfortunately, as far as DL's records are concerned, OP flew in 10C and there's nothing other than the OP's story to say otherwise. I hope this isn't an issue and DL takes OP's word for it. If this ever happens to me, I'd be either requesting the FA to issue some form of compensation on the spot or I'd be requesting a hand-written letter from the FA with their name on it to help collaborate the story.
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Originally Posted by jphripjah
(Post 33809673)
I was unaware there was a domestic/international distinction in pulling bags from planes when someone doesn't board or gets offloaded.
So if it were a domestic flight and he were offloaded would there be a good chance his bag flies without him, but if it's an international flight they CAN'T fly your bag without you? And is that only a rule for international flights from USA? It would be good to know this stuff in case I'm ever in that situation of daring a flight attendant to offload me from a domestic or international flight because I stand up to a poacher. Thanks. |
Originally Posted by jphripjah
(Post 33809673)
I was unaware there was a domestic/international distinction in pulling bags from planes when someone doesn't board or gets offloaded.
So if it were a domestic flight and he were offloaded would there be a good chance his bag flies without him, but if it's an international flight they CAN'T fly your bag without you? And is that only a rule for international flights from USA? It would be good to know this stuff in case I'm ever in that situation of daring a flight attendant to offload me from a domestic or international flight because I stand up to a poacher. Thanks.
Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle
(Post 33809894)
I have had my bags fly separately from me many times on international flights with VDB vouchers bumping me to the next flight.
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Originally Posted by ATOBTTR
(Post 33808092)
Hopefully DL believes the OP's letter/complaint. One problem with this is that OP's boarding pass was scanned as 10C at the gate. The seat swap happened onboard and was done "off the books" by the FA. Unfortunately, as far as DL's records are concerned, OP flew in 10C and there's nothing other than the OP's story to say otherwise. I hope this isn't an issue and DL takes OP's word for it. If this ever happens to me, I'd be either requesting the FA to issue some form of compensation on the spot or I'd be requesting a hand-written letter from the FA with their name on it to help collaborate the story.
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Originally Posted by jphripjah
(Post 33809673)
I was unaware there was a domestic/international distinction in pulling bags from planes when someone doesn't board or gets offloaded.
So if it were a domestic flight and he were offloaded would there be a good chance his bag flies without him, but if it's an international flight they CAN'T fly your bag without you? And is that only a rule for international flights from USA? It would be good to know this stuff in case I'm ever in that situation of daring a flight attendant to offload me from a domestic or international flight because I stand up to a poacher. Thanks.
Originally Posted by ATOBTTR
(Post 33809908)
For int’l travel you’re not supposed to be voluntarily separated from your bags. It can still happen involuntarily because you misconnect or your bag misconnects.
I’m speculating here but I’m guessing this is an exception then because no one plans on a VDB when they are initially planning travel. |
Is there any reason the FA couldn't have waited until takeoff and seatbelt sign off to move the squatters to the seats they paid for?
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Originally Posted by nrr
(Post 33809641)
I'd now consider checking a "throw-a-away" bag which contains only "my lucky paper-clip", if I'm in the predicament noted in this tread
Better yet, if you find yourself in this situation, just claim you have a checked bag and will cause a bigger delay. I can't imagine the FAs iPhones have that info or that lying to FAs is a crime. |
Originally Posted by sethb
(Post 33810045)
I would demand a new boarding pass from the GA. That would take a lot longer than getting the seat thieves moved.
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Originally Posted by Repooc17
(Post 33807383)
DYKWIA or not, he has the right of seating (10C). The fact FA knew it was wrong for those seat squatters and didn't do anything :mad:
I usually board last on flights, and have dealt with seat squatters trying to play dumb. I would have made a scene until the seat I am assigned to gets vacated, or the police can drag me off the plane. Also, mom teaching her daughter stealing someone's seat is okay. Pathetic parenting.
Originally Posted by Collierkr
(Post 33808165)
So much hate in the world…that a woman would think it is okay to do whatever she wants, and then the FA basically ignores then ignores the request of 10C.
had it been me (10C) we wouldn’t have left until I had my seat plain and simple. Somehow the FA tried to make that person out as the bad guy. Jesus! So 10C needs to report all of this and seek restitution and this whole thing has nothing to do with DYKWIA Don't flight attendants have the power to move people out of ticketed seats to accommodate families or address security/safety issues or something? If the FA had dug in here and the passenger caused a major scene, couldn't the FA have defended her actions by saying "I didn't tell him to take 13B just because I'm lazy and it seemed like the easiest thing to do. I was accommodating woman with daughter and infant and there was a safety/health reason why I thought it was best to let them stay in 10C?" |
Originally Posted by HkCaGu
(Post 33810354)
No need to throw-away a bag. Just check a cardboard box. Even better, save all those Amazon boxes you've received and throw away one of those.
Better yet, if you find yourself in this situation, just claim you have a checked bag and will cause a bigger delay. I can't imagine the FAs iPhones have that info or that lying to FAs is a crime. |
Originally Posted by jphripjah
(Post 33810416)
Interesting. what would the justification be for demanding a new boarding pass? I mean, if the FA tells you "Just sit in 13B we're taking off" and we assume they will throw you off the plane if you refuse, why would saying "I refuse unless I get a new boarding pass" change that outcome? Why wouldn't she just say "No, take 13B now or we're throwing you off the plane."
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Originally Posted by chollie
(Post 33810329)
Is there any reason the FA couldn't have waited until takeoff and seatbelt sign off to move the squatters to the seats they paid for?
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From info noted upthread, the pochers knew they wouldn't be moved (probably from previous pochings). The fault to a large extent lies with DL (airlines in general) of allowing pax to poach.
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Originally Posted by jphripjah
(Post 33810426)
If you refuse to take your seat and the police have to drag you off the plane, can't you be charged with obstructing a flight crew or something?
Don't flight attendants have the power to move people out of ticketed seats to accommodate families or address security/safety issues or something? If the FA had dug in here and the passenger caused a major scene, couldn't the FA have defended her actions by saying "I didn't tell him to take 13B just because I'm lazy and it seemed like the easiest thing to do. I was accommodating woman with daughter and infant and there was a safety/health reason why I thought it was best to let them stay in 10C?" |
Originally Posted by jphripjah
(Post 33810416)
Interesting. what would the justification be for demanding a new boarding pass? I mean, if the FA tells you "Just sit in 13B we're taking off" and we assume they will throw you off the plane if you refuse, why would saying "I refuse unless I get a new boarding pass" change that outcome? Why wouldn't she just say "No, take 13B now or we're throwing you off the plane."
You can, if you wish, call the police to have me removed. I will place the seat thief in my seat under citizen's arrest and formally demand the assistance of the police in expediting that arrest. I guarantee that process will lead to a much longer delay than moving the seat thief out of my seat, and my report to Delta will ensure that the delay is credited to your refusal to remove the seat thief from my seat. Also, do you want 1's? Because this is how you get 1's on the flight survey. |
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