Avoiding AMS?
Nov 29, 2021, 3:32 am
#31
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I flew CDG-JFK yesterday and security was an absolute nightmare, 1hr wait at the skypriority lane, people getting rowdy since some pax started cutting lines, the only staff were 2-3 "line assigners" with no police to back them up, all of that in a hall that was too small for the number of people there. Similarly on arrival CDG has been seeing insane 1hr waits at immigration for non-EU pax around 8-11am.
Would not at all recommend transferring through CDG... AMS is slightly better set up for the transfers.
Would not at all recommend transferring through CDG... AMS is slightly better set up for the transfers.
Nov 29, 2021, 4:50 am
#33
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i was supposed to transit via AMS in 10 days on the way back to LA. had some questions regarding the known cases in AMS two days ago. called the diamond line, and s supervisor picked up the phone. she immediately told me to avoid AMS due to those omicron cases and go through CDG instead. i figured i got 4 hours in CDG that would be plenty of time for me.
Nov 29, 2021, 4:54 am
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Airside @AMS: For both essential and non-essentiel shops after security an exception applies: they may keep their regular opening hours. It's business as usual.
Did fly MSP-AMS and connected @AMS a couple of days ago, lines at non-Schengen-Schengen & vv were around 15 pax long at around 07h00.
Our A339neo had plenty of open seats up front. 13 open seats at DoD. At the gate 5 pax cleared into D1. DL0160 left with 8 open D1 seats and 8FA's. IIRC the purser told me Delta would add another FA next month.
Did fly MSP-AMS and connected @AMS a couple of days ago, lines at non-Schengen-Schengen & vv were around 15 pax long at around 07h00.
Our A339neo had plenty of open seats up front. 13 open seats at DoD. At the gate 5 pax cleared into D1. DL0160 left with 8 open D1 seats and 8FA's. IIRC the purser told me Delta would add another FA next month.
Nov 29, 2021, 5:30 am
#35
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really? What’s been happening in schiphol? I had no issues and I thought they’ve been more efficient than others. My transfer in CDG was a different story. I missed my connection a couple of weeks ago due to the crazy wait times at security and immigration.
Nov 29, 2021, 7:36 am
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That's not quite correct, final destination that is what mattered. This summer and fall transit pax in AMS didn't need a test if their final destination didn't required it.
Nov 29, 2021, 8:49 am
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Nov 29, 2021, 8:53 am
#39
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Back in September I flew from NYC to Berlin with a layover in AMS. At that time the Netherlands had recently announced their renewed travel restrictions (negative test, vaccination, and quarantine all required) which effectively made entering the country impossible or impractical for leisure travel. For the JFK->AMS leg, I flew in Delta Comfort+ and that section was nearly empty, I would say something like 20% full, if even that. I strongly suspect that it had to do with the Netherlands' strict entry requirements and this is probably what you are also experiencing now.
Nov 29, 2021, 1:49 pm
#40
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lucky you! I arrived almost a week before that at around noon or so from MIA on AF and there were about 100,000 people in line! I guess there was a strike though.
Nov 29, 2021, 8:14 pm
#41
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I flew CDG-JFK yesterday and security was an absolute nightmare, 1hr wait at the skypriority lane, people getting rowdy since some pax started cutting lines, the only staff were 2-3 "line assigners" with no police to back them up, all of that in a hall that was too small for the number of people there. Similarly on arrival CDG has been seeing insane 1hr waits at immigration for non-EU pax around 8-11am.
Would not at all recommend transferring through CDG... AMS is slightly better set up for the transfers.
Would not at all recommend transferring through CDG... AMS is slightly better set up for the transfers.
Nov 30, 2021, 8:11 am
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On a related side note I'm not sure if the brie was bad when airport planners designed this airport. There are parking/holding/standing spaces for cars to pull in at the terminal like you are in a parking lot. Total chaos as cars were trying to get around. This was terminal 2A.
Nov 30, 2021, 10:57 am
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When I flew CDG-LHR Saturday last weekend there was a queue of 100+ just to get into the terminal where two guys checked to see if you had a boarding pass. Total joke.
On a related side note I'm not sure if the brie was bad when airport planners designed this airport. There are parking/holding/standing spaces for cars to pull in at the terminal like you are in a parking lot. Total chaos as cars were trying to get around. This was terminal 2A.
On a related side note I'm not sure if the brie was bad when airport planners designed this airport. There are parking/holding/standing spaces for cars to pull in at the terminal like you are in a parking lot. Total chaos as cars were trying to get around. This was terminal 2A.
Nov 30, 2021, 11:21 am
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i was supposed to transit via AMS in 10 days on the way back to LA. had some questions regarding the known cases in AMS two days ago. called the diamond line, and s supervisor picked up the phone. she immediately told me to avoid AMS due to those omicron cases and go through CDG instead. i figured i got 4 hours in CDG that would be plenty of time for me.
Nov 30, 2021, 2:11 pm
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Amazed that anyone would think that the same situation will be there in 10 days! First of all, France has an explosive surge of the Delta variant right now! There is so much Delta going on, France may simply be not recognizing the smattering of Omnicron cases right now. But it is already there!