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Old Jun 19, 2021, 7:59 am
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DTW to ICN diverted back to DTW after getting 1/2 there?

13+ hours from DTW back to DTW. Any idea why??? If a medical or mechanical issue, they would have gone to ANC. The airport at ICN appears to be operating normally. It's not near the end of the month when a return crew might not have enough hours remaining to be "legal." So why???

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...405Z/KDTW/KDTW
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Old Jun 19, 2021, 9:11 am
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I would be near mutiny. Then again after a particularly annoying flight from HKG once with a chronic cougher one row behind me (I collected data; they averaged one cough every 10 seconds for most of the flight), I would have been completely fine if we went back and dropped her off.
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Old Jun 19, 2021, 9:14 am
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I assume COVID played a role here. Whatever caused them to turn around, it was far easier to go back to DTW and get a new plane and avoid all the potential COVID-related headaches of landing in ICN if there are issues with the plane or something on board.
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Old Jun 19, 2021, 9:29 am
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Brings a whole new meaning to 'trip in vain'.
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I wonder whether there could have been someone on board who cannot enter South Korea (or mainland China, if it was a continuing flight).

If they wanted to go to a major hub for a MX, SEA would be closer.
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Old Jun 19, 2021, 10:18 am
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If it's covid related then they might not have had a choice. Airlines sometimes do that in other cases. I had a relative on an AC flight to Vegas that turned around due to " mechanical issues" and flew three hours back to Toronto. I guess it's easier for the airline to inconvenience one hundred passengers than finding hotel rooms for the crew that would have been likely stranded whole the issue was resolved.
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Old Jun 19, 2021, 11:02 am
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Was once (probably 2008) on Northwest Narita to DTW flight in Business that turned around and headed back to Narita after 3 hours.
Walking off plane everyone in Business was handed a paper voucher that could be redeemed for either 125k miles or a Business class ticket anywhere NW flew .... those were the days.
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DL283 is really DTW-PVG. They had to go back to DTW due to Chinese entrance regulations likely. Everyone will require new CV19 tests and those technically can only be done in DTW.

Passengers don't get off/no new passengers get on at ICN. No one can thus connect to/from at ICN on this flight.
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Old Jun 19, 2021, 6:12 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
DL283 is really DTW-PVG. They had to go back to DTW due to Chinese entrance regulations likely. Everyone will require new CV19 tests and those technically can only be done in DTW.

Passengers don't get off/no new passengers get on at ICN. No one can thus connect to/from at ICN on this flight.
OMG how miserable
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Old Jun 19, 2021, 6:30 pm
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Maybe they learned about the anal swab covid tests in PVG while in the air and they decided to return…

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...a-56245404.amp
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Old Jun 19, 2021, 8:00 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
DL283 is really DTW-PVG. They had to go back to DTW due to Chinese entrance regulations likely. Everyone will require new CV19 tests and those technically can only be done in DTW.

Passengers don't get off/no new passengers get on at ICN. No one can thus connect to/from at ICN on this flight.
Is this because DTW-PVG is too far nonstop?

If its a fuel stop, any specific reason ICN instead of Anchorage?
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Old Jun 19, 2021, 8:22 pm
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Originally Posted by returnoftheyeti
Is this because DTW-PVG is too far nonstop?

If its a fuel stop, any specific reason ICN instead of Anchorage?
It due to quarantine rules for flight crews. The crews fly DTW-ICN (they get off here unlike passengers) , the crew that flew DTW-ICN the previous day gets on and flys ICN-PVG, they stay onboard the aircraft at PVG, then fly PVG-ICN and get off (again no passengers get on/off), at ICN the crew that flew ICN-PVG-ICN the previous day gets on and flies ICN-DTW.

All done to avoid Chinese quarantine rules for aircrew.
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Old Jun 19, 2021, 10:20 pm
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I flew DCA-DTW on Saturday 19 June. Gate A76 arrival at DTW at about 2:25pm. While walking to the central terminal area to exit and meet my ride, I passed by one of the widebody gates (something near A60).

For those familiar with DTW’s A concourse, the seating area of two gates to the west of the moving walkway was roped off, a table-like cart was near the gate desk with what looked like take-away meals stacked five or six high, GAs or DL staff were passing out snacks and water, and the roped off area extended to one set of M/F restrooms to the south.

Uniformed DL staff were monitoring the roped areas, presumably to keep people from crossing between the roped off and non-roped off areas.

I wonder if the people in that roped off area were from this flight?
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Originally Posted by MarkCron
Was once (probably 2008) on Northwest Narita to DTW flight in Business that turned around and headed back to Narita after 3 hours.
Walking off plane everyone in Business was handed a paper voucher that could be redeemed for either 125k miles or a Business class ticket anywhere NW flew .... those were the days.
Wow, that's like 12,500,000 in today's [value of] Delta miles!
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Old Jun 19, 2021, 11:22 pm
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The plane that went and diverted back to DTW was N514DN. The passengers got off in DTW and were on N507DN within 4 hours of landing. So, you would think it's mechanical and the diversion was to DTW as a replacement A359 was there. The oddity is that N514DN needed just a quick fix as it was on its way to AMS after just 6.5 hours on the ground. Whatever the issue was, seems like an expensive one given it had to come all the way back to DTW, recrew, and head out to ICN causing 14-16 hour delays on the next several flights. Also, with crew rest, I wonder if this will cause delays for the next several days for that crew. I'm too tired to do the math!
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