Aloha1

Nothing "nationalist" about taking care of your health and having some courtesy for those around you. The "my body my choice people" are COVID deniers.

ab2013

Interesting graphs from an article on ticketing trends in the past few months:

https://forwardkeys.com/us-air-trave...ependence-day/

It'll be interesting to get data on the most recent 2 weeks. But based on the latest update from UA today, I don't think the data will be very promising and suggests that the recovery is stalling, especially in NY (explains DL's cuts in NYC this past weekend): https://www.reuters.com/article/brie...-idUSFWN2EE0FF

N639DL

I think we'll see things to continue going up throughout the rest of the year, despite Ed's comments that after August there won't be many new changes to the schedule. They definitely did cut too much particularly towards the end of June.

rylan

Problem is with outbreaks and spikes around the country, multiple states are reversing their opening phases... which is going to reduce travel.

ab2013

Yup there are states with very strong evidence of widespread community spread. Southern states are doing relatively poorly - positive test rates in AZ are around 30% and FL around 20%. Even states like WA and CA are trending in the wrong direction. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/...tes/california

HI is well-known for enforcing mandatory quarantine - how are other states with quarantine policies handling it?

AANYC1981

Meanwhile NY state has got it under control

bostontraveler

More cancellations to/from Europe today.
BOS-CDG removed for month of August.

flyerCO

HI has a lot easier job. There's no way to just drive in, anyone coming in is coming via plane.

ab2013

Sure. (Same with AK - practically speaking) But HI was arresting people for breaking quarantines - that's pretty much the strictest enforcement that I know/have heard of in the US.

flyerCO

True, but it's a lot easier for them to know if you were subject or not to an order.

DLASflyer

Delta’s measured approach is proving to be smart. I was skeptical but it looks like management bet right on a slow recovery.

TEBraniff

Could Delta's slowing the increase in the number of flights vs American and United cramming anyone and everyone in be reflected in Georgia's slower Covid-19 rates when compared to FLA or TX or AZ? Georgia reopened first before FLA or TX or AZ and I think they are doing better. Delta continues to be sensible blocking the middle seat which everyone should embrace if they have a choice between Delta and unAmerican or unUnited.

cmd320

No.

ClipperDelta

United has been the slowest of the Big 3 to bring back domestic capacity partly because they had the most hubs in early-affected areas like SFO, EWR and ORD. During that time the upticks in travel were driven by the south and mountain west. That’s why you saw Delta not cutting SLC significantly and bringing back ATL capacity first once they started adding back flights.
AA also benefited from being strong in hubs in those parts of the country (CLT, DFW and PHX) but they also had no choice but to add back flights in hopes of generating cash (their head of Revenue Mgmt recently even came right out and said that basically with over $40Bn in debt to service, cutting back and basically getting zero cash was a surefire way to Ch 11 so they bet big that bringing back lots of interior hub flying would at least generate cash especially when their break even load factor was so low with low fuel prices etc).

bgasser

Only heard one case where they did that with a fool who was posting pics of himself at the beach on social media rather than quarantining as required.