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Has DL Cut too many flights? Analysis and discussion of schedule cuts.

Has DL Cut too many flights? Analysis and discussion of schedule cuts.

Old Jul 6, 20, 11:36 am
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Originally Posted by johnatan View Post
I do find it amusing how quickly the nationalist crowd suddenly adopted the "my body my choice" argument.....
Nothing "nationalist" about taking care of your health and having some courtesy for those around you. The "my body my choice people" are COVID deniers.
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Old Jul 7, 20, 7:19 am
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Interesting graphs from an article on ticketing trends in the past few months:

https://forwardkeys.com/us-air-trave...ependence-day/

It'll be interesting to get data on the most recent 2 weeks. But based on the latest update from UA today, I don't think the data will be very promising and suggests that the recovery is stalling, especially in NY (explains DL's cuts in NYC this past weekend): https://www.reuters.com/article/brie...-idUSFWN2EE0FF


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Old Jul 10, 20, 8:59 pm
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I think we'll see things to continue going up throughout the rest of the year, despite Ed's comments that after August there won't be many new changes to the schedule. They definitely did cut too much particularly towards the end of June.
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Old Jul 11, 20, 11:45 am
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Problem is with outbreaks and spikes around the country, multiple states are reversing their opening phases... which is going to reduce travel.
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Old Jul 11, 20, 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by rylan View Post
Problem is with outbreaks and spikes around the country, multiple states are reversing their opening phases... which is going to reduce travel.
Yup there are states with very strong evidence of widespread community spread. Southern states are doing relatively poorly - positive test rates in AZ are around 30% and FL around 20%. Even states like WA and CA are trending in the wrong direction. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/...tes/california

HI is well-known for enforcing mandatory quarantine - how are other states with quarantine policies handling it?
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Old Jul 11, 20, 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by ab2013 View Post
Yup there are states with very strong evidence of widespread community spread. Southern states are doing relatively poorly - positive test rates in AZ are around 30% and FL around 20%. Even states like WA and CA are trending in the wrong direction. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/...tes/california

HI is well-known for enforcing mandatory quarantine - how are other states with quarantine policies handling it?
Meanwhile NY state has got it under control
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Old Jul 11, 20, 1:25 pm
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More cancellations to/from Europe today.
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Old Jul 12, 20, 11:48 am
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Originally Posted by ab2013 View Post
Yup there are states with very strong evidence of widespread community spread. Southern states are doing relatively poorly - positive test rates in AZ are around 30% and FL around 20%. Even states like WA and CA are trending in the wrong direction. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/...tes/california

HI is well-known for enforcing mandatory quarantine - how are other states with quarantine policies handling it?
HI has a lot easier job. There's no way to just drive in, anyone coming in is coming via plane.
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Old Jul 12, 20, 1:36 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO View Post
HI has a lot easier job. There's no way to just drive in, anyone coming in is coming via plane.
Sure. (Same with AK - practically speaking) But HI was arresting people for breaking quarantines - that's pretty much the strictest enforcement that I know/have heard of in the US.
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Old Jul 12, 20, 1:41 pm
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Originally Posted by ab2013 View Post
Sure. (Same with AK - practically speaking) But HI was arresting people for breaking quarantines - that's pretty much the strictest enforcement that I know/have heard of in the US.
True, but it's a lot easier for them to know if you were subject or not to an order.
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Old Jul 12, 20, 5:14 pm
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Deltaís measured approach is proving to be smart. I was skeptical but it looks like management bet right on a slow recovery.
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Could Delta's slowing the increase in the number of flights vs American and United cramming anyone and everyone in be reflected in Georgia's slower Covid-19 rates when compared to FLA or TX or AZ? Georgia reopened first before FLA or TX or AZ and I think they are doing better. Delta continues to be sensible blocking the middle seat which everyone should embrace if they have a choice between Delta and unAmerican or unUnited.
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Old Jul 12, 20, 6:25 pm
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Originally Posted by TEBraniff View Post
Could Delta's slowing the increase in the number of flights vs American and United cramming anyone and everyone in be reflected in Georgia's slower Covid-19 rates when compared to FLA or TX or AZ? Georgia reopened first before FLA or TX or AZ and I think they are doing better. Delta continues to be sensible blocking the middle seat which everyone should embrace if they have a choice between Delta and unAmerican or unUnited.
No.
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Old Jul 12, 20, 6:51 pm
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Originally Posted by TEBraniff View Post
Could Delta's slowing the increase in the number of flights vs American and United cramming anyone and everyone in be reflected in Georgia's slower Covid-19 rates when compared to FLA or TX or AZ? Georgia reopened first before FLA or TX or AZ and I think they are doing better. Delta continues to be sensible blocking the middle seat which everyone should embrace if they have a choice between Delta and unAmerican or unUnited.
United has been the slowest of the Big 3 to bring back domestic capacity partly because they had the most hubs in early-affected areas like SFO, EWR and ORD. During that time the upticks in travel were driven by the south and mountain west. Thatís why you saw Delta not cutting SLC significantly and bringing back ATL capacity first once they started adding back flights.
AA also benefited from being strong in hubs in those parts of the country (CLT, DFW and PHX) but they also had no choice but to add back flights in hopes of generating cash (their head of Revenue Mgmt recently even came right out and said that basically with over $40Bn in debt to service, cutting back and basically getting zero cash was a surefire way to Ch 11 so they bet big that bringing back lots of interior hub flying would at least generate cash especially when their break even load factor was so low with low fuel prices etc).
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Old Jul 12, 20, 10:38 pm
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Originally Posted by ab2013 View Post
Sure. (Same with AK - practically speaking) But HI was arresting people for breaking quarantines - that's pretty much the strictest enforcement that I know/have heard of in the US.
Only heard one case where they did that with a fool who was posting pics of himself at the beach on social media rather than quarantining as required.
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