New BP Scanners to Enforce Zones?

Old Jan 20, 2020, 2:47 pm
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New BP Scanners to Enforce Zones?

Just had an interesting boarding experience at CHS. There were new scanners installed where your BP stays face up, instead of facing down on the glass. Now that may not seem revolutionary, but at least two people in front of me during PREM boarding were asked if they were in first class after they put their phones under the scanner and it didn't beep. They were not, and were asked to leave the line and board with their zone. Maybe it was coincidence, but it seems like maybe they are getting serious about people boarding in their proper zone.

Anyone seen these scanners at other airports and seen similar results?
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 3:10 pm
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Originally Posted by MotelRomeo
Just had an interesting boarding experience at CHS. There were new scanners installed where your BP stays face up, instead of facing down on the glass. Now that may not seem revolutionary, but at least two people in front of me during PREM boarding were asked if they were in first class after they put their phones under the scanner and it didn't beep. They were not, and were asked to leave the line and board with their zone. Maybe it was coincidence, but it seems like maybe they are getting serious about people boarding in their proper zone.

Anyone seen these scanners at other airports and seen similar results?
What happens if I am legitimately PREM and board with my young family who are all on separate PNRs in Main Cabin 3 or BE?
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 3:19 pm
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Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle
What happens if I am legitimately PREM and board with my young family who are all on separate PNRs in Main Cabin 3 or BE?
I imagine they do the right thing and help...

UA has had this system for a while. It makes a loud unpleasant buzzer sound if you try to board early, for extra shaming. Though I imagine it wouldn't necessarily require installing new scanners to program the system to do this.
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 3:32 pm
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I posted in another thread. If this happens the system should automatically move you to middle seat, row in front of emergency exit/last row (no recline). You then have to wait till last to board.
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 3:40 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
I posted in another thread. If this happens the system should automatically move you to middle seat, row in front of emergency exit/last row (no recline). You then have to wait till last to board.
I think just turning people away to the back of the line is sufficient enough punishment that, if universally enforced, will lead to an end of this problem.
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 3:45 pm
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Originally Posted by BradleyFlyer
I think just turning people away to the back of the line is sufficient enough punishment that, if universally enforced, will lead to an end of this problem.
Unfortunately I don't think the shaming stops some people. Although consistently sending them back might make them realize that it isn't worth trying.

I say this because I was just at LAX yesterday, and the GA was very vigilant. After I boarded a couple guys were loudly making fun of him when they entered the aircraft 'we aren't boarding your group yet SIR' and basically saying it's always worth a try and they get away with it other times. So they were proudly boasting about trying to cheat the system, not shamed at all.
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 3:50 pm
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Unfortunately I don't think the shaming stops some people. Although consistently sending them back might make them realize that it isn't worth trying.

I say this because I was just at LAX yesterday, and the GA was very vigilant. After I boarded a couple guys were loudly making fun of him when they entered the aircraft 'we aren't boarding your group yet SIR' and basically saying it's always worth a try and they get away with it other times. So they were proudly boasting about trying to cheat the system, not shamed at all.
I entirely agree that the current process is completely broken. I actually file a complaint to Delta every time I see it happen (basically every flight) that United's system works better. If the zones are consistently enforced and people have to go to the back, or maybe their zone is automatically downgraded to BE, over time it will resolve the issue without completely ticking off paying passengers in low boarding zones.
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 4:00 pm
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All they have to do is board with the "need additional time people" as Delta won't ruffle those feathers. Just today I saw 3 women board when it was called, all appearing to perfectly healthy.
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 4:02 pm
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So long as it is enforced fairly uniformly, over time it will work. Even Pavlov's dog learned.
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 4:03 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
I posted in another thread. If this happens the system should automatically move you to middle seat, row in front of emergency exit/last row (no recline). You then have to wait till last to board.
Id prefer a trap door opens and they can fly with the cargo.
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 4:31 pm
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Originally Posted by estedman
All they have to do is board with the "need additional time people" as Delta won't ruffle those feathers. Just today I saw 3 women board when it was called, all appearing to perfectly healthy.
I'm tempted to have this same mindset when I see people going up early, but pain and disabilities are complicated enough that it's impossible to judge on the surface. Someone with severe back or joint pain, for example, might not be hunched over and limping while still needing to stand as little as possible. I guess a note from the doctor requesting pre-boarding might be a step to filtering, but I doubt a one-look by the gate agent would be fair enough to distinguish proper disabilities from early-board abusers, especially if the cost of a false negative is high from social or legal fallout.
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 4:32 pm
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Originally Posted by BradleyFlyer
I think just turning people away to the back of the line is sufficient enough punishment that, if universally enforced, will lead to an end of this problem.
So you really think people flying once or less a year will get it by universal enforcement?
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 4:36 pm
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I prefer the ones in Europe (or at least CDG) where if the gate doesn't open if you don't have the correct BP.
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 5:15 pm
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As bad as delta boarding might seem aa is 100 times worse with their 8 different boarding zones and everyone acting like gate lice for zone 1. The aa agents never turn people away

it would always annoy me when 20 people board zone 1 (first class) on a plane with 8 f seats.
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 5:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Nuhusky
As bad as delta boarding might seem aa is 100 times worse with their 8 different boarding zones and everyone acting like gate lice for zone 1. The aa agents never turn people away

it would always annoy me when 20 people board zone 1 (first class) on a plane with 8 f seats.
12 could be DM sitting in C+.
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