Will I have Access to Delta's first lounge(s)?
Feb 20, 2020, 4:40 am
#31
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IIRC Delta did had "First Class Lounges" back when they still had a true international First class ( 25+ years ago ). When IFC was scrapped in favour of the new "Business Elite" class these Lounges got closed but it might be that they kept some as business class lounges (?), i think i remember one in the old JFK T3.
Since then Pax with an domestic or international ( americas ) First class ticket did not access to an Lounge. The Sky clubs are just that, a "Club" which sells membership for a fee.
Since then Pax with an domestic or international ( americas ) First class ticket did not access to an Lounge. The Sky clubs are just that, a "Club" which sells membership for a fee.
Feb 20, 2020, 4:45 am
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It depends. Start of last year there waa changes to access. Previously access for F passengers on DL international flights (within N America/Northern S America) fell under the "skyteam" section of the policy. Starting last year, DL stated the ST policy was for other ST airlines (non-DL). Agents/managers/corporate customer service have all given mixed messages. Some say it was an oversight as the access previously was under the Skyteam section (basically bad re-write of the policy). Others, like the agent you spoke with believe it was the intent. Basically YMMV. It wont hurt to ask, as many have still gotten in. However be prepared for a no also.
Feb 20, 2020, 7:34 pm
#33
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I agree with you, about every FC passenger should get access to the lounge, but it should be every paying FC passenger as many of us myself included get upgraded more often then we pay out right for first.
Then the other drawback is, how crowded the clubs would be if they did give all FC passengers club access even if it's just paying FC passengers.
Then the other drawback is, how crowded the clubs would be if they did give all FC passengers club access even if it's just paying FC passengers.
Feb 20, 2020, 7:35 pm
#34
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and this is where the whole thing gets murky, because I definitely had access to the LAX SC when I flew to CUN on DL metal in F (unless maybe I shouldn't have actually had access and just had a nice agent who let me in)
Feb 23, 2020, 5:25 pm
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It depends. Start of last year there waa changes to access. Previously access for F passengers on DL international flights (within N America/Northern S America) fell under the "skyteam" section of the policy. Starting last year, DL stated the ST policy was for other ST airlines (non-DL). Agents/managers/corporate customer service have all given mixed messages. Some say it was an oversight as the access previously was under the Skyteam section (basically bad re-write of the policy). Others, like the agent you spoke with believe it was the intent. Basically YMMV. It wont hurt to ask, as many have still gotten in. However be prepared for a no also.
Feb 23, 2020, 5:36 pm
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Not murky. You have Skyteam Elite Plus status and there have been no changes for those who receive access via status. They still get lounge access whether in F or coach on international flights except for the Caribbean. The change is only for those flying F and who do not otherwise have access via Skyteam Elite Plus status.
Feb 23, 2020, 5:40 pm
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I was on ATL-CUN last year in paid F with a companion. I had access via my AMEX Reserve and assumed he would get it because he had paid F ticket. The Sky Club agent told me they considered CUN part of the Caribbean so F didn’t have access. She did allow him in for free as a courtesy rather than have me pay to guest him in.