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Old Apr 27, 2019, 5:36 am
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E-170/175 Best Regional Jet?

The E-170/175 was already my favorite regional jet but with the service Delta provided during the weather delay at JFK would make me choose it again. I have flown it on a United but one thing I don’t like about it on United is the placement of the power outlet ( the plug doesn’t stay plugged in due to angle outlet is on seat ). Delta decided for a more usable design 😆. Below was my experience on JFK-CLE in F. Would love to hear or see yours.

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Old Apr 27, 2019, 5:57 am
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The Delta Connection carriers has a few more CR9s (157) than they do E70s (21) and E75s (101) as of 12/31/18, but yes, the 2-class E-jets are nice. I appreciate the extra shoulder room vs. the CR7/CR9 in coach. They have been in the fleet for a while -- I can think of Shuttle America flights (DTW-SLC?) in 2007 or earlier.
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 12:49 pm
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For the Row 1 bulkheads, I think that the E75s and E70s have more overhead bin room than the CR9s, which is a nice plus
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 2:43 pm
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E175 >>> CR9 >>> E170 >>> CR7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>CR2

Main reason for CR9 over E170 is the generous F/Y ratio that makes upgrades easier to obtain on the CR9.

But if paying for F from the start, E170 wins
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 3:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Duke787
Main reason for CR9 over E170 is the generous F/Y ratio that makes upgrades easier to obtain on the CR9.
I don't think we should assume this. We already know that Delta will offer the upgrades at different prices to different people. There's no reason to think they wouldn't take the number of seats into account when pricing these. If they sell them cheaper on flights with (relatively) more F seats, then this advantage would evaporate almost instantly.
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 3:14 pm
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I was astounded that I actually had a pleasant CR2 flight the other night CRW-ATL. I wish the aisle armrest went up, it'd make getting out of those seats easier.

I fly a lot of CR9s, especially low-season ORD-SLC and various routes out of RDU. The new RDU-ORD was announced as 3x175 which made me incredibly happy, but they lost the 175s before the route even started with the BOS expansion. So now it's 1xCR9 and 2xCR7, which is ok because I should have a high upgrade percentage as a Platinum. The CR9s are fine in F or in row 4, less fine behind that.

RDU-AUS has been downgraded from a CR9 to a CR7, which I understand. But I don't want to fly a CR7 for that long, even in F.
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 4:38 pm
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Can you actually tell the difference between a CRJ9 and a CRJ7? I can't but I don't fly on them that often.
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 4:43 pm
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Originally Posted by WillBarrett_68
Can you actually tell the difference between a CRJ9 and a CRJ7? I can't but I don't fly on them that often.
The biggest difference is the lack of a front lav on the CR7. One lav in the back for 70 people is not ideal, especially when if you're in F and have to make your way to the back of the plane.

I do find that the CR9 seems to have a little more headroom in Y and doesn't feel as clausterphobic. And F may have a little more legroom on the CR9.

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Old Apr 27, 2019, 6:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Duke787
E175 >>> CR9 >>> E170 >>> CR7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CR2
There I fixed it for you!

And yes agree, E175 best regional jet in the sky.
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 6:58 pm
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The E170/175 is the most comfortable aircraft in my opinion. I’d fly it coast to coast if it was offered.
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I agree with many others here, I think I’d prefer a 175 over any other narrow-body in DL fleet (*except a D1 seat on 752). I love that they board fast, have big and well placed windows, seem quieter than CR7/9, roomy seats, option for 1 seat side in F and no middles in C+ and Y.

I’d be all for the 175 becoming the domestic equivalent of the 787, allowing for more point-to-point, long distance flights instead of hub and spoke on 737s, 321s etc. How is the 175 operationally for airlines (I would guess that it doesn’t offer a big efficiency bump like the 787/350s)?
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 9:25 pm
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Originally Posted by ajggiant
I agree with many others here, I think I’d prefer a 175 over any other narrow-body in DL fleet (*except a D1 seat on 752). I love that they board fast, have big and well placed windows, seem quieter than CR7/9, roomy seats, option for 1 seat side in F and no middles in C+ and Y.

I’d be all for the 175 becoming the domestic equivalent of the 787, allowing for more point-to-point, long distance flights instead of hub and spoke on 737s, 321s etc. How is the 175 operationally for airlines (I would guess that it doesn’t offer a big efficiency bump like the 787/350s)?
Sadly it doesn't have the legs. MKE-SEA is about max for the long-range models. A model capable of coast to coast flying would be pretty cool.
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 9:41 pm
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Originally Posted by WillBarrett_68
I don't think we should assume this. We already know that Delta will offer the upgrades at different prices to different people. There's no reason to think they wouldn't take the number of seats into account when pricing these. If they sell them cheaper on flights with (relatively) more F seats, then this advantage would evaporate almost instantly.
I mean I say that from pretty extensive experience ex-RDU.

On RDU - NYC, it's a virtual lock for me as a PM to clear on the E175/CR9 flights but E170 my rate is much lower and I've flown them all enough it's probably statsitically valid at this point.

I've also never missed on RDU - AUS on the CR9 so not surprising it got downgraded to a CR7 (which I wasn't aware of before the mention up thread)
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Old Apr 28, 2019, 5:00 am
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Originally Posted by ajggiant
I’d be all for the 175 becoming the domestic equivalent of the 787, allowing for more point-to-point, long distance flights instead of hub and spoke on 737s, 321s etc. How is the 175 operationally for airlines (I would guess that it doesn’t offer a big efficiency bump like the 787/350s)?
There was a chart in the 12/14/17 Investor Day presentation (see page 41 from the 8-K filing of that date, https://ir.delta.com/financials/defa...x#news-updates) that showed big RJs (assumed E70/E75/CR7/CR9) were inferior in cost per seat to small narrowbodies (319/717) which were inferior to medium narrowbodies (MD-88/MD-90/738) which were inferior to large narrowbodies (739/321). The difference in cost E75 to 321 is probably about 20%. Unless people flying an E75 non-stop XXX-ZZZ are willing to pay a lot more than connecting flights on big aircraft XXX-YYY-ZZZ your dream isn't going to happen. It would be interesting to see where the A220 cost fits in Delta's chart. Seat cost efficiency as good as a 738?
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Old Apr 28, 2019, 5:10 am
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Originally Posted by ElmhurstNick
I was astounded that I actually had a pleasant CR2 flight the other night CRW-ATL. I wish the aisle armrest went up, it'd make getting out of those seats easier.
There's a button underneath the armrest, near the pivot, that releases it so you can put it up.
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