Can I use LHR Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse on Arrival (Delta Plat)?
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Can I use LHR Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse on Arrival (Delta Plat)?
Delta Plat here, and I checked that I am eligible to use the Virgin Atlantic clubhouse at LHR.
My question is that I will be arriving JFK-LHR, but I want to use that lounge (and not the smaller arrival lounge that is after security). Will I be able to do so? I'm not sure how LHR Terminal 3 works wrt to custom clearance?
I've never been to LHR, and I'm reading/inferring that after customs you get booted out of the sterile area? So in order to get to the clubhouse, do I go from my plane directly to the clubhouse, then when I am done go through customs and exit the secured area?
My question is that I will be arriving JFK-LHR, but I want to use that lounge (and not the smaller arrival lounge that is after security). Will I be able to do so? I'm not sure how LHR Terminal 3 works wrt to custom clearance?
I've never been to LHR, and I'm reading/inferring that after customs you get booted out of the sterile area? So in order to get to the clubhouse, do I go from my plane directly to the clubhouse, then when I am done go through customs and exit the secured area?
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Delta Plat here, and I checked that I am eligible to use the Virgin Atlantic clubhouse at LHR.
My question is that I will be arriving JFK-LHR, but I want to use that lounge (and not the smaller arrival lounge that is after security). Will I be able to do so? I'm not sure how LHR Terminal 3 works wrt to custom clearance?
I've never been to LHR, and I'm reading/inferring that after customs you get booted out of the sterile area? So in order to get to the clubhouse, do I go from my plane directly to the clubhouse, then when I am done go through customs and exit the secured area?
My question is that I will be arriving JFK-LHR, but I want to use that lounge (and not the smaller arrival lounge that is after security). Will I be able to do so? I'm not sure how LHR Terminal 3 works wrt to custom clearance?
I've never been to LHR, and I'm reading/inferring that after customs you get booted out of the sterile area? So in order to get to the clubhouse, do I go from my plane directly to the clubhouse, then when I am done go through customs and exit the secured area?
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2)Clubhouse is not an ARRIVAL lounge. You only get access when originating or connecting. Very clearly defined policy, that matches STE+ policy.
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To get back to the terminal after arrival, you will need to go through security checkpoint, at least in my experience in LHR.
You maybe able to get back to sterile area of the terminal if you convince security check that you have connection, but it's not guaranteed (few weeks ago I had no problem going through connection security at T3 without showing boarding pass or printout, but I also saw other people stopped at checkpoint without itinerary). Even if you get to the terminal, you can be denied access to clobhouse without connecting flight.
The real question is why even try????
What's wrong with Revivals Lounge for a quick shower and breakfast before heading to town?
You maybe able to get back to sterile area of the terminal if you convince security check that you have connection, but it's not guaranteed (few weeks ago I had no problem going through connection security at T3 without showing boarding pass or printout, but I also saw other people stopped at checkpoint without itinerary). Even if you get to the terminal, you can be denied access to clobhouse without connecting flight.
The real question is why even try????
What's wrong with Revivals Lounge for a quick shower and breakfast before heading to town?
Last edited by AntonS; Aug 3, 2018 at 1:25 am
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The physical layout of the terminal is the stipulation. Arriving and departing passengers are segregated, and there is no way to get into the departure area without a boarding pass.
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The issue is more to leave the secure area than to access. Transfer desks are right after security so you could technically go past security without a boarding pass. Now, to leave T3 is a bigger challenge.
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Lhr is pretty automated. Without a boarding pass you aren’t going to be able to get thru the transfers security and if you clear customs and try going back it is logistically difficult and once again they scan boarding passes and you won’t have one
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There’s no stipulation as the clubhouse is airside and the only way to get airside is to have a boarding pass for a departing flight leaving from terminal 3. There is no physical access otherwise.
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You won't get into the departures area without a T3 boarding pass. I don't know what you mean by 'leaving the secure area'. You can certainly leave the secure area of T3 and leave the airport..
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It still not worth the hassle.
What's wrong with Revivals Lounge?
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- Before you depart, enjoy complimentary access to LHR’s Fast Track security lane and your choice of the Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse or the No.1 Lounges, Heathrow for you and one (1) guest.
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"Before you depart" the airport!
But seriously, unlike in the US, it's not easy to just walk out of the departures are back to landside. I'm pretty sure there's no border control upon exiting the UK (like Schengen), but there's no public "path" back to landside because there's generally no need. However, I believe an airport staff member can escort you (there's probably just a door somewhere, but it's probably fire-alarmed for emergencies, because obviously you DO have to leave a way for people to exit the building in adverse circumstances).
But I think the "real" issues are (1) getting through security back into T3 departures without proof of an onward flight, and (2) whether the lounge policy actually allows DL Plat/DM to use the Clubhouse without an onward boarding pass.
But seriously, unlike in the US, it's not easy to just walk out of the departures are back to landside. I'm pretty sure there's no border control upon exiting the UK (like Schengen), but there's no public "path" back to landside because there's generally no need. However, I believe an airport staff member can escort you (there's probably just a door somewhere, but it's probably fire-alarmed for emergencies, because obviously you DO have to leave a way for people to exit the building in adverse circumstances).
But I think the "real" issues are (1) getting through security back into T3 departures without proof of an onward flight, and (2) whether the lounge policy actually allows DL Plat/DM to use the Clubhouse without an onward boarding pass.
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Ok, it looks like too much hassle to work this, I did not know arrivals and departures were two separate areas at LHR? That's so weird, because there's no such thing in any of the US airports that I've traveled to. I mean logistically how does it make sense at all? If half of the terminal is dedicated to arrivals, that's "wasted space". After offloading passengers does the plane need to taxi to the departure part of the terminal to load passengers?
The revivals lounge is problematic because it closes at 1.30pm. I arrive at 10am, and plan to lounge hop until like 6-7pm. Also it only serves breakfast, I wanted to try the other items on the menu. As for the ToC, I wouldn't interpret it that strictly. It was phrased to include "suggested usage", but did not have specific wording like you need a *departure* boarding pass. In places like PDX restaurants, a *departure* boarding pass is specifically mentioned.
Also I'm looking from the angle whether if this is possible, not what the "intended" use of the lounges (arrival/departure) are...
The revivals lounge is problematic because it closes at 1.30pm. I arrive at 10am, and plan to lounge hop until like 6-7pm. Also it only serves breakfast, I wanted to try the other items on the menu. As for the ToC, I wouldn't interpret it that strictly. It was phrased to include "suggested usage", but did not have specific wording like you need a *departure* boarding pass. In places like PDX restaurants, a *departure* boarding pass is specifically mentioned.
Also I'm looking from the angle whether if this is possible, not what the "intended" use of the lounges (arrival/departure) are...