Westjet redeemable miles and MQM?
Feb 26, 2019, 10:11 am
#1
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Westjet redeemable miles and MQM?
Hi,
I'm a Delta PM. I'll be flying from NYC to YYC in March, and there aren't many good options.
Google flights dhows an option through Westjet. How does that affect my miles and MQMs earned? I know Westjet is affiliated with Delta, but not sure exactly how it all works out.
Thanks!!
Departure Sat, Mar 16
Select flight
$558
round trip
6:05 AM
LaGuardia Airport LGA
Travel time: 1h 37m
7:42 AM
Toronto Pearson International Airport YYZ
WestJet
Economy
Boeing 737
WS 1201
Ticket also sold by Delta
1h 18m layover
Toronto YYZ
9:00 AM
Toronto Pearson International Airport YYZ
Travel time: 4h 5m
11:05 AM
Calgary International Airport YYC
WestJet
Economy
Boeing 787
WS 655
Often delayed by 30+ min
I'm a Delta PM. I'll be flying from NYC to YYC in March, and there aren't many good options.
Google flights dhows an option through Westjet. How does that affect my miles and MQMs earned? I know Westjet is affiliated with Delta, but not sure exactly how it all works out.
Thanks!!
Departure Sat, Mar 16
Select flight
$558
round trip
6:05 AM
LaGuardia Airport LGA
Travel time: 1h 37m
7:42 AM
Toronto Pearson International Airport YYZ
WestJet
Economy
Boeing 737
WS 1201
Ticket also sold by Delta
1h 18m layover
Toronto YYZ
9:00 AM
Toronto Pearson International Airport YYZ
Travel time: 4h 5m
11:05 AM
Calgary International Airport YYC
WestJet
Economy
Boeing 787
WS 655
Often delayed by 30+ min
Feb 26, 2019, 10:21 am
#2
Join Date: Aug 2018
Programs: SkyMiles, HHonors, Marriott
Posts: 129
WestJet has a codeshare partnership with Delta, but is not a SkyTeam partner and, last time I traveled, did not recognize Medallion or SkyTeam status. So basically, you'll get your miles and MQMs as if you had flown Delta metal. You won't be able to choose your seat in advance (although I haven't yet been stuck in a middle seat), you won't be eligible for complimentary upgrades, and you'll have to pay to check a bag on the return flight (since you'll check in with WestJet rather than Delta.)
Feb 26, 2019, 10:27 am
#3
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If you book as DL-coded flights, they will earn miles/MQD's based on spend (and MQM's distance). If booked as WS-coded, miles/MQD's will be based on distance (refer to WS earnings table). Note that most economy fares do not earn 100% MQM's (unlike DL marketed flights).
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-partners.html
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-partners.html
Feb 26, 2019, 10:53 am
#4
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 1,885
Their staff was very friendly in my one experience with them. Soft product good, hard product not so good. As others have commented, no advance seat choice, but you do get full earning if you book through Delta. I don't think they have F on their 737 but do have an economy comfort-like product. If you show proof of medallion status they will probably waive your bag fee. If you ask at the gate (gate agents have more powers) if there are any benefits to Delta status that could get you a better seat, they might upgrade you.
Feb 26, 2019, 11:09 am
#5
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Location: BNA
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I would be more curious how that works if you can actually buy that ticket from Delta?
Even if Google flights shows it, but my experience is Delta won't (by default) route you on Westjet if they fly there already. For example YYC has plenty of Delta flights from MSP, so I would think NYC to MSP to YYC?
Again I am just curious how that works.
I second those mentioning Westjet's soft product. Westjetters are amazing.
Even if Google flights shows it, but my experience is Delta won't (by default) route you on Westjet if they fly there already. For example YYC has plenty of Delta flights from MSP, so I would think NYC to MSP to YYC?
Again I am just curious how that works.
I second those mentioning Westjet's soft product. Westjetters are amazing.
Feb 26, 2019, 11:59 am
#6
Join Date: Aug 2018
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I would be more curious how that works if you can actually buy that ticket from Delta?
Even if Google flights shows it, but my experience is Delta won't (by default) route you on Westjet if they fly there already. For example YYC has plenty of Delta flights from MSP, so I would think NYC to MSP to YYC?
Even if Google flights shows it, but my experience is Delta won't (by default) route you on Westjet if they fly there already. For example YYC has plenty of Delta flights from MSP, so I would think NYC to MSP to YYC?
Feb 26, 2019, 1:49 pm
#7
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Yes and no. Delta will always favor its own routes over codeshares, but I've had cases, for instance, where I needed to get from YYZ to SBN. The "usual" routing would be all Delta/Delta Connection metal YYZ - DTW - SBN, but they did offer me YYZ - LGA (WS) - SBN (DL) as well.
Going to YYZ myself I had expected a Westjet option to show, but nothing.
Anyway I can see in some cases (as in your example) if one of the legs is DL metal then that would make sense but 100% codeshare as OP asked? I tried booking an inter Island on Hawaiian once using Delta website, it would let me redeem miles for it, but to purchase it required a connecting flight on Delta. Well at least that is what customer service said when all I got was an error code and that was their reason.
So this would mean OP would have to book with Westjet and try and claim the milage after?
Feb 26, 2019, 2:07 pm
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YMMV.... indeed, very common on these forums.
Going to YYZ myself I had expected a Westjet option to show, but nothing.
Anyway I can see in some cases (as in your example) if one of the legs is DL metal then that would make sense but 100% codeshare as OP asked? I tried booking an inter Island on Hawaiian once using Delta website, it would let me redeem miles for it, but to purchase it required a connecting flight on Delta. Well at least that is what customer service said when all I got was an error code and that was their reason.
So this would mean OP would have to book with Westjet and try and claim the milage after?
Going to YYZ myself I had expected a Westjet option to show, but nothing.
Anyway I can see in some cases (as in your example) if one of the legs is DL metal then that would make sense but 100% codeshare as OP asked? I tried booking an inter Island on Hawaiian once using Delta website, it would let me redeem miles for it, but to purchase it required a connecting flight on Delta. Well at least that is what customer service said when all I got was an error code and that was their reason.
So this would mean OP would have to book with Westjet and try and claim the milage after?
Feb 26, 2019, 3:10 pm
#9
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 277
Is there not a good connection through Seattle that would keep you on Delta metal?
i went from LAX to Vancouver a couple times last year and returned on WestJet once and made sure to take the Delta connection the next time. It’s not a terrible seat, but it’s not great (especially if you’re used to + seats) and WestJet seems to be prone to delays. Since you’re already doing a one-stop anyway...
Otherwise, if you book through Delta you’ll get MQMs and miles calculated the same as on Delta metal. I never tried talking to a gate agent, but there’s no written policy I found online about any status benefits while traveling and I wasn’t able to pick seats ahead of time or anything.
i went from LAX to Vancouver a couple times last year and returned on WestJet once and made sure to take the Delta connection the next time. It’s not a terrible seat, but it’s not great (especially if you’re used to + seats) and WestJet seems to be prone to delays. Since you’re already doing a one-stop anyway...
Otherwise, if you book through Delta you’ll get MQMs and miles calculated the same as on Delta metal. I never tried talking to a gate agent, but there’s no written policy I found online about any status benefits while traveling and I wasn’t able to pick seats ahead of time or anything.
Feb 26, 2019, 4:13 pm
#10
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WS coded flights earn miles/MQM"s/MQD's just like other partners (see table linked above). Being a Skyteam member is not a requirement for mileage earning. VS is also not a Skyteam member.
Oct 9, 2019, 6:48 am
#11
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 647
Anybody have experience with how long it takes the MQMs to credit? I am 400 miles to gold, but waiting on a YYZ-LAX flight to post (and it turns out I could have flown through MSP and landed at the same time because of a delay, but premium economy is almost like Delta business class and only $100 on that route, including the bag that I needed to check).
Oct 9, 2019, 7:00 am
#12
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 5,190
DL definitely gives 50% MQM credit for miles flown when booked on a discounted fare with Westjet. 100% MQMs when booked with DL. I very frequently travel to Canada.
Oct 9, 2019, 7:02 am
#13
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Location: Atlanta
Posts: 5,190
Anybody have experience with how long it takes the MQMs to credit? I am 400 miles to gold, but waiting on a YYZ-LAX flight to post (and it turns out I could have flown through MSP and landed at the same time because of a delay, but premium economy is almost like Delta business class and only $100 on that route, including the bag that I needed to check).