Yes and yes. Seems entirely reasonable that people not in the know or don't read these lovely debates, without the curtain being shut, would have no idea which lav is for which.

My issue is not with airplane design, nor what they should do in allowing which cabin customers in which lavs. However when an airline employee closes a curtain which, obviously, can only be in place to restrict access to an area, people just disregard it because they think they have good reason. They do not, short of a real emergency to ones self or others, just have some common courtesy and go wait in line for the lav in the back.

Seriously the behavior of the individuals I saw recently treating the curtain as something of a joke, is not only disrespectful to the employee that closed it for a reason, but just plain rude in general.

I wouldn't lose sleep over this issue any more than 99.9% of issues in these threads, so on that we can agree.

This is likely not a popular reply, but on more than one occasion I've seen people use the pretense of using the D1 (or FC) lav as an excuse to corner a celeb/vip passenger. It gets super awkward for everyone witnessing.

Three thoughts:

1. I think some of the F class elitists on this thread would prefer if the economy class lav consisted of a bucket in the rear galley.

2. When I'm in F, I kind of like having a lower passenger:lav ratio, but I really don't care all that much if someone in Y uses the forward lav, particularly if it's a situation where the beverage cart is between a passenger and the rear lavs . . . or if someone REALLY has to go and there's a line at the rear lav.

3. Regardless of my class of service, I make it a point to limit my liquid intake in the hour before boarding, and I use the men's room just prior to boarding.

I agree about the bucket. I emailed the CEO with your suggestion. Thanks!

Yes, I use the one I PAID for. (and this include the access to the J lav, if I am upgrade in J)

You can paid in different way... with $, with RUC/GUC and $, with miles, with skybonus certificate, or even with $ and DM upgrade...

My point is you get what you paid for.
If I flight enough to have a Diamond status with Delta and this can give me occasionally upgrade and I am upgrade, in this case I have "paid" for this (by being a FF with Delta).

The point is when you "buy" a ticket. you have a contract coming with this ticket, and you agree to follow crews instruction. If the crew instruct you some lav are only for F pax, it is... it is not to you to decide what crew instruction you can or can't follow.

If you disagree about Delta rules, just select other airline...

Just remember, J pax have "paid" to better seat, better lav "ratio", better ratio of crew/pax, better boarding priority, .... The J pax paid for a "package". It is to Delta to decide what are and what are not in the package they offer (in J or Y) and this include the lav in the J area.

The day you will remove b(or lower) some of this "better" to J. The "product" become less competitive, and Delta will lost J customer to other airline (this is what you want).
Keep in mind, price in Y are at this price, BECAUSE, J pax paid much more for this better "package".

I respect Delta rules... if one day they decide all lav are open to all pax. I will respect their rules.... if not I will change airline...

To those who're so bent out of shape about the great unwashed (!) visiting "your" pristine lav and claiming to always abide by The Rules Of The Lav: do you ever drive a few miles over the speed limit?

So using that analogy you only slightly use the F lav? So like you aim into it from the aisle, perhaps that is why people are claiming it gets gross.

I mean I get your point, but a better analogy might be parking in a reserved (not for you) parking space, or passing on the right. Speed has a tolerance because of imperfect measuring by the offender or the enforcer. Regardless of your opinion of right or wrong, you either use the lav or don't, there is no gray area.

I will "complete" your point...
I want to know.....
If you go over the speed limit a few miles, and a police car come on your side and ask you to slow down (to respect the speed limits). You will go down or not ?
It is same with the lav rules... if you try... but crew advise you it is not possible,,, you will respect the rules or not ?

If an FA tells me to do something, I'll comply, just like if a police cruiser follows me with the lights flashing I'll pull over. But if I'm doing 55 in a 55 zone, and someone passes me doing 58, I won't call the cops on that guy, nor will it bother me all that much.

My point is that this seems like a silly thing to get all worked up about, but I suppose 99% of the threads of every online forum are like that.

Exactly! People complain about people who speed on the internet ALL the time.

Especially that upscale C+ experience whose seats on the 739 are further away from the (assigned) lav than any other seat on any other aircraft in the entire system.

Yeah, If I am in C+ 11A, and 11B or C gets up and goes to the back lav, I might head up the front lav (only if unoccupied) and get back in my seat in time so that my seatmates don't have to get up to accommodate me later. Keeps more fannies in their seats longer which should make the FA's happy in this day and age.

Honest question from a FO that has sat up front no more than five times total..

I know it's assumed that the front lav is for F pax only. I have made the same assumption numerous times. But is it spelled out anywhere? Honestly just asking.