Are MEX and GRU now focus cities?
Oct 18, 2018, 6:16 am
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Are MEX and GRU now focus cities?
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Digging through their earnings statements, it seems that DL has lately (and consistently) mentioned that they've identified MEX and GRU as one of their "hubs and key markets." I have no doubt this is due to their stake in AM and G3, but could we see more non-traditional routings to these cities? IIRC, GRU is now served by DL through MCO as well.
Digging through their earnings statements, it seems that DL has lately (and consistently) mentioned that they've identified MEX and GRU as one of their "hubs and key markets." I have no doubt this is due to their stake in AM and G3, but could we see more non-traditional routings to these cities? IIRC, GRU is now served by DL through MCO as well.
Oct 18, 2018, 6:49 am
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I doubt we'll see much in terms of 'non-traditional routes.' There certainly will be codeshares of Aeromexico routes that make more sense in terms of AM's hub structure (MEX) than they do with Delta's ATL/MSP/DTW/SLC/LAX/SEA/LGA/JFK hub structure. GRU is too far for anything but widebodies. That places a fairly significant seat-count hurdle.
Delta's pilot contract places restrictions on JV flying by partners in terms of a ratio of their flying to Delta flying. They can't try one oddball route - they'll need two to maintain balance.
MCO gets a lot of Brazilian visitors anxious to see The Mouse. In 2015, Brazil had edged out the United Kingdom to become Orlando’s second largest international market, just behind Canada.
https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/...ando-this-year
Delta's pilot contract places restrictions on JV flying by partners in terms of a ratio of their flying to Delta flying. They can't try one oddball route - they'll need two to maintain balance.
MCO gets a lot of Brazilian visitors anxious to see The Mouse. In 2015, Brazil had edged out the United Kingdom to become Orlando’s second largest international market, just behind Canada.
https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/...ando-this-year
Oct 18, 2018, 8:25 pm
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Digging through their earnings statements, it seems that DL has lately (and consistently) mentioned that they've identified MEX and GRU as one of their "hubs and key markets." I have no doubt this is due to their stake in AM and G3, but could we see more non-traditional routings to these cities? IIRC, GRU is now served by DL through MCO as well.
Digging through their earnings statements, it seems that DL has lately (and consistently) mentioned that they've identified MEX and GRU as one of their "hubs and key markets." I have no doubt this is due to their stake in AM and G3, but could we see more non-traditional routings to these cities? IIRC, GRU is now served by DL through MCO as well.
Oct 18, 2018, 10:02 pm
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Wouldn't be surprised to see more ex-MEX but doubtful on GRU.
RDU - MEX for example would make some sense (on either DL or AM metal). They run seasonally to the resorts but nothing to MEX though my guess is most DL traffic to SA from RDU is going through ATL already so may not make sense unless there is O&D -- presumably it would be at the edge of the CR9 range or the A220 if we see that come through RDU.
RDU - MEX for example would make some sense (on either DL or AM metal). They run seasonally to the resorts but nothing to MEX though my guess is most DL traffic to SA from RDU is going through ATL already so may not make sense unless there is O&D -- presumably it would be at the edge of the CR9 range or the A220 if we see that come through RDU.
Oct 18, 2018, 11:32 pm
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Rumors of GRU-MCO ending
Also that poor American couple (or was it just the fiancée?) that got killed in cross fire in MEX is troubling. No thanks.
Also that poor American couple (or was it just the fiancée?) that got killed in cross fire in MEX is troubling. No thanks.
Oct 19, 2018, 8:12 am
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Check this out: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...avel&smtyp=cur
Oct 19, 2018, 10:31 am
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I don't mean to hijack the thread so I apologize in advance. My wife and I are always looking for new adventures. Why is it that GRU, GIG and EZE are always so expensive out of LAX? For half the price you can travel to BKK, FCO just about anywhere heading east out of LAX.
We fell in love with CDMX and plan on returning soon. Brasil has always been on our radar as well.
We're just bummed that getting to SA is so much more expensive.
We fell in love with CDMX and plan on returning soon. Brasil has always been on our radar as well.
We're just bummed that getting to SA is so much more expensive.
Oct 20, 2018, 8:17 am
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I don't mean to hijack the thread so I apologize in advance. My wife and I are always looking for new adventures. Why is it that GRU, GIG and EZE are always so expensive out of LAX? For half the price you can travel to BKK, FCO just about anywhere heading east out of LAX.
We fell in love with CDMX and plan on returning soon. Brasil has always been on our radar as well.
We're just bummed that getting to SA is so much more expensive.
We fell in love with CDMX and plan on returning soon. Brasil has always been on our radar as well.
We're just bummed that getting to SA is so much more expensive.
Oct 20, 2018, 8:17 pm
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I don't mean to hijack the thread so I apologize in advance. My wife and I are always looking for new adventures. Why is it that GRU, GIG and EZE are always so expensive out of LAX? For half the price you can travel to BKK, FCO just about anywhere heading east out of LAX.
We fell in love with CDMX and plan on returning soon. Brasil has always been on our radar as well.
We're just bummed that getting to SA is so much more expensive.
We fell in love with CDMX and plan on returning soon. Brasil has always been on our radar as well.
We're just bummed that getting to SA is so much more expensive.
Oct 22, 2018, 1:41 pm
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Tragic. But I'm sure you know that this also happens in American cities. I understand that there are serious drug war related problems in Mexico, but it's not everywhere. We felt extremely safe in CDMX.
Check this out: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...avel&smtyp=cur
Check this out: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...avel&smtyp=cur
Tragedies can happen everywhere, but I an not at all afraid of visiting and exploring Mexico City. The much-publicized drug violence is limited largely to a few border areas and is not reflective of the country as a whole, and the capital is largely unaffected.
Oct 22, 2018, 4:35 pm
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My greatest fear visiting Mexico is that I might need larger pants when I return home. Even the border areas are quite safe unless you seek vice.