How much influence does my status really have with China Eastern?
#16
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Not much...don’t expect CX. The good news is every year MU gets a little better it seems and I have been on their planes for many years now...but STE+/Diamond generally does not get acknowledged...sometimes I feel they are a little put off that I am not crediting to MU’s Eastern Miles program - formally known as the ‘Golden Swallow’ program - possibly the worst name ever chosen for a FF program!
#17
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: SFO
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Not much...don’t expect CX. The good news is every year MU gets a little better it seems and I have been on their planes for many years now...but STE+/Diamond generally does not get acknowledged...sometimes I feel they are a little put off that I am not crediting to MU’s Eastern Miles program - formally known as the ‘Golden Swallow’ program - possibly the worst name ever chosen for a FF program!
#18
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ATL
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Standard STE+ as people have said. On ground the basic stuff you would get. Check-in line, boarding and the like. On board I was a PM and got nothing with MU. NO acknowledgement... just an FA trying to get me to trade seats with someone which I declined. Overall it was a good couple flights.
#19
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: SJC, SFO
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You get NOTHING!!! And if you understood Chinese, you'd understand how much MU dislike DL passengers. I have heard a lot of colorful comments in Chinese made by MU ground staff at PVG. I remember a vivid conversation with transfer desk agent, once she realized I speak Chinese. She literally said "Are you crazy risking your life and handsome face flying those super old Delta 777?" I didn't know if it a flirt or insult until she told her coworker in Chinese "yo, here is another stupid American from Delta with no boarding pass... are the Americans so lazy that they never print a boarding pass before they leave?"...
One time I was irritated enough that I responded back in Chinese to the tune of "I don't fly MU from the US to China because your FAs are rude and disrespectful like you!" I think these colorful remarks are not helpful and excess.
MU in general is a very disorganized company and employees are often poorly trained or not trained before they are allowed loose to service customers.
Earlier this year, Chinese government instituted mandatory fingerprint scanning for all foreigners. Surprising, PVG was the last airport to get this. I have had my full fingerprints scanned and stored at both Xiamen and Shenzhen, so I usually skip the "foreigner fingerprint scanning" area. I had a MU ground agent starting screaming at me telling me foreigners must get scanned. I told him I am already scanned at other airports, and he said "Impossible, this is new!" I didn't want to argue, so I went to get scanned - as soon as my passport got read by the kiosk, the system told me I already scanned, so I asked him "I told you, what now?!" To which, he started to scream at his coworker, "how is it possible he is already scanned and we already just started doing this." They called over a supervisor, and was told exactly what I mentioned to them, that PVG is the last one to go, so I must have gotten scanned elsewhere... Instead of apologizing, the guy has the balls to ask me "what's wrong with you, flying around so much..."
I also love the craziness they call e-gate for transfer passengers. E-gates do not work for US-arriving transfer flights, so you end up having to wait in the staff-lined, but not until you get yelled at by the MU agents that you must use the e-gate... MU, can definitely win the award for the worst ran ST member airline.
One time I was irritated enough that I responded back in Chinese to the tune of "I don't fly MU from the US to China because your FAs are rude and disrespectful like you!" I think these colorful remarks are not helpful and excess.
MU in general is a very disorganized company and employees are often poorly trained or not trained before they are allowed loose to service customers.
Earlier this year, Chinese government instituted mandatory fingerprint scanning for all foreigners. Surprising, PVG was the last airport to get this. I have had my full fingerprints scanned and stored at both Xiamen and Shenzhen, so I usually skip the "foreigner fingerprint scanning" area. I had a MU ground agent starting screaming at me telling me foreigners must get scanned. I told him I am already scanned at other airports, and he said "Impossible, this is new!" I didn't want to argue, so I went to get scanned - as soon as my passport got read by the kiosk, the system told me I already scanned, so I asked him "I told you, what now?!" To which, he started to scream at his coworker, "how is it possible he is already scanned and we already just started doing this." They called over a supervisor, and was told exactly what I mentioned to them, that PVG is the last one to go, so I must have gotten scanned elsewhere... Instead of apologizing, the guy has the balls to ask me "what's wrong with you, flying around so much..."
I also love the craziness they call e-gate for transfer passengers. E-gates do not work for US-arriving transfer flights, so you end up having to wait in the staff-lined, but not until you get yelled at by the MU agents that you must use the e-gate... MU, can definitely win the award for the worst ran ST member airline.
#20
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You get NOTHING!!! And if you understood Chinese, you'd understand how much MU dislike DL passengers. I have heard a lot of colorful comments in Chinese made by MU ground staff at PVG. I remember a vivid conversation with transfer desk agent, once she realized I speak Chinese. She literally said "Are you crazy risking your life and handsome face flying those super old Delta 777?" I didn't know if it a flirt or insult until she told her coworker in Chinese "yo, here is another stupid American from Delta with no boarding pass... are the Americans so lazy that they never print a boarding pass before they leave?"...
One time I was irritated enough that I responded back in Chinese to the tune of "I don't fly MU from the US to China because your FAs are rude and disrespectful like you!" I think these colorful remarks are not helpful and excess.
MU in general is a very disorganized company and employees are often poorly trained or not trained before they are allowed loose to service customers.
Earlier this year, Chinese government instituted mandatory fingerprint scanning for all foreigners. Surprising, PVG was the last airport to get this. I have had my full fingerprints scanned and stored at both Xiamen and Shenzhen, so I usually skip the "foreigner fingerprint scanning" area. I had a MU ground agent starting screaming at me telling me foreigners must get scanned. I told him I am already scanned at other airports, and he said "Impossible, this is new!" I didn't want to argue, so I went to get scanned - as soon as my passport got read by the kiosk, the system told me I already scanned, so I asked him "I told you, what now?!" To which, he started to scream at his coworker, "how is it possible he is already scanned and we already just started doing this." They called over a supervisor, and was told exactly what I mentioned to them, that PVG is the last one to go, so I must have gotten scanned elsewhere... Instead of apologizing, the guy has the balls to ask me "what's wrong with you, flying around so much..."
I also love the craziness they call e-gate for transfer passengers. E-gates do not work for US-arriving transfer flights, so you end up having to wait in the staff-lined, but not until you get yelled at by the MU agents that you must use the e-gate... MU, can definitely win the award for the worst ran ST member airline.
One time I was irritated enough that I responded back in Chinese to the tune of "I don't fly MU from the US to China because your FAs are rude and disrespectful like you!" I think these colorful remarks are not helpful and excess.
MU in general is a very disorganized company and employees are often poorly trained or not trained before they are allowed loose to service customers.
Earlier this year, Chinese government instituted mandatory fingerprint scanning for all foreigners. Surprising, PVG was the last airport to get this. I have had my full fingerprints scanned and stored at both Xiamen and Shenzhen, so I usually skip the "foreigner fingerprint scanning" area. I had a MU ground agent starting screaming at me telling me foreigners must get scanned. I told him I am already scanned at other airports, and he said "Impossible, this is new!" I didn't want to argue, so I went to get scanned - as soon as my passport got read by the kiosk, the system told me I already scanned, so I asked him "I told you, what now?!" To which, he started to scream at his coworker, "how is it possible he is already scanned and we already just started doing this." They called over a supervisor, and was told exactly what I mentioned to them, that PVG is the last one to go, so I must have gotten scanned elsewhere... Instead of apologizing, the guy has the balls to ask me "what's wrong with you, flying around so much..."
I also love the craziness they call e-gate for transfer passengers. E-gates do not work for US-arriving transfer flights, so you end up having to wait in the staff-lined, but not until you get yelled at by the MU agents that you must use the e-gate... MU, can definitely win the award for the worst ran ST member airline.
#21
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ATL
Programs: DL DM, Hyatt LT DM, Wyndham DM, Hertz PC, HH Gold, SPG Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,038
You get NOTHING!!! And if you understood Chinese, you'd understand how much MU dislike DL passengers. I have heard a lot of colorful comments in Chinese made by MU ground staff at PVG. I remember a vivid conversation with transfer desk agent, once she realized I speak Chinese. She literally said "Are you crazy risking your life and handsome face flying those super old Delta 777?" I didn't know if it a flirt or insult until she told her coworker in Chinese "yo, here is another stupid American from Delta with no boarding pass... are the Americans so lazy that they never print a boarding pass before they leave?"...
One time I was irritated enough that I responded back in Chinese to the tune of "I don't fly MU from the US to China because your FAs are rude and disrespectful like you!" I think these colorful remarks are not helpful and excess.
MU in general is a very disorganized company and employees are often poorly trained or not trained before they are allowed loose to service customers.
Earlier this year, Chinese government instituted mandatory fingerprint scanning for all foreigners. Surprising, PVG was the last airport to get this. I have had my full fingerprints scanned and stored at both Xiamen and Shenzhen, so I usually skip the "foreigner fingerprint scanning" area. I had a MU ground agent starting screaming at me telling me foreigners must get scanned. I told him I am already scanned at other airports, and he said "Impossible, this is new!" I didn't want to argue, so I went to get scanned - as soon as my passport got read by the kiosk, the system told me I already scanned, so I asked him "I told you, what now?!" To which, he started to scream at his coworker, "how is it possible he is already scanned and we already just started doing this." They called over a supervisor, and was told exactly what I mentioned to them, that PVG is the last one to go, so I must have gotten scanned elsewhere... Instead of apologizing, the guy has the balls to ask me "what's wrong with you, flying around so much..."
I also love the craziness they call e-gate for transfer passengers. E-gates do not work for US-arriving transfer flights, so you end up having to wait in the staff-lined, but not until you get yelled at by the MU agents that you must use the e-gate... MU, can definitely win the award for the worst ran ST member airline.
One time I was irritated enough that I responded back in Chinese to the tune of "I don't fly MU from the US to China because your FAs are rude and disrespectful like you!" I think these colorful remarks are not helpful and excess.
MU in general is a very disorganized company and employees are often poorly trained or not trained before they are allowed loose to service customers.
Earlier this year, Chinese government instituted mandatory fingerprint scanning for all foreigners. Surprising, PVG was the last airport to get this. I have had my full fingerprints scanned and stored at both Xiamen and Shenzhen, so I usually skip the "foreigner fingerprint scanning" area. I had a MU ground agent starting screaming at me telling me foreigners must get scanned. I told him I am already scanned at other airports, and he said "Impossible, this is new!" I didn't want to argue, so I went to get scanned - as soon as my passport got read by the kiosk, the system told me I already scanned, so I asked him "I told you, what now?!" To which, he started to scream at his coworker, "how is it possible he is already scanned and we already just started doing this." They called over a supervisor, and was told exactly what I mentioned to them, that PVG is the last one to go, so I must have gotten scanned elsewhere... Instead of apologizing, the guy has the balls to ask me "what's wrong with you, flying around so much..."
I also love the craziness they call e-gate for transfer passengers. E-gates do not work for US-arriving transfer flights, so you end up having to wait in the staff-lined, but not until you get yelled at by the MU agents that you must use the e-gate... MU, can definitely win the award for the worst ran ST member airline.
#22
Join Date: May 2010
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#23
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
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+1 - I’m by no means a Mandarin speaker, but the only time I heard “meiguo” was when an agent was having trouble scanning our passports and asked his supervisor for assistance. And, in fact, we actually encountered quite a bit of kindness - an agent happily added English to his rotating announcements for a delayed flight due to ATC issues, for example.
#24
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Or at check-in desk with seven agents, note how all of them look away and pretend not to see you - the only pax to check-in.
Or the risk of crew smoking in-flight.
But that has nothing to do with MU. That is just typical how it is in China. (The last part though I've only had happen with MU. Not with CA or other PRC airlines.)
Aircraft and the in flight product, esp. in J, is good - for sure better than DL. Service can vary greatly, depends on the FAs you get. It can be upon take-off and landing like a zoo (aisles full of excess carry-on bags, pax and FAs walking around, eating, literally while plane is landing or taking off), or quite the opposite and strict security. Same for service.
MU is like DL in one way: one thing that is consistent is the inconsistency.
But at least you won't go as hungry as on KE and the planes are not as crazy hot as KE. On the ground experience worse than KE, but in flight still better than KE (marginally), mostly due to the solid product, new aircraft.
#25
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Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Atlanta
Programs: Skymiles
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Every MU employee I have interacted with so far has been great. Everyone seems salty. Walked in the Skypriority checkin line at PVG, smile, did their job, told me to have a good day. No one was smoking. No use of laowai or or any other slang.
Lots of sea salt up in here.
Lots of sea salt up in here.
#26
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ATL
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Every MU employee I have interacted with so far has been great. Everyone seems salty. Walked in the Skypriority checkin line at PVG, smile, did their job, told me to have a good day. No one was smoking. No use of laowai or or any other slang.
Lots of sea salt up in here.
Lots of sea salt up in here.
#27
Join Date: Mar 2015
Programs: DL-PM
Posts: 266
Listen to the clink of bottles and observe how the FAs or their buddies stuff their empty carry-on duffle bags full of booze bottles &c. at the end of flights on MU (sometimes).
Or at check-in desk with seven agents, note how all of them look away and pretend not to see you - the only pax to check-in.
Or the risk of crew smoking in-flight.
But that has nothing to do with MU. That is just typical how it is in China. (The last part though I've only had happen with MU. Not with CA or other PRC airlines.)
Aircraft and the in flight product, esp. in J, is good - for sure better than DL. Service can vary greatly, depends on the FAs you get. It can be upon take-off and landing like a zoo (aisles full of excess carry-on bags, pax and FAs walking around, eating, literally while plane is landing or taking off), or quite the opposite and strict security. Same for service.
MU is like DL in one way: one thing that is consistent is the inconsistency.
But at least you won't go as hungry as on KE and the planes are not as crazy hot as KE. On the ground experience worse than KE, but in flight still better than KE (marginally), mostly due to the solid product, new aircraft.
Or at check-in desk with seven agents, note how all of them look away and pretend not to see you - the only pax to check-in.
Or the risk of crew smoking in-flight.
But that has nothing to do with MU. That is just typical how it is in China. (The last part though I've only had happen with MU. Not with CA or other PRC airlines.)
Aircraft and the in flight product, esp. in J, is good - for sure better than DL. Service can vary greatly, depends on the FAs you get. It can be upon take-off and landing like a zoo (aisles full of excess carry-on bags, pax and FAs walking around, eating, literally while plane is landing or taking off), or quite the opposite and strict security. Same for service.
MU is like DL in one way: one thing that is consistent is the inconsistency.
But at least you won't go as hungry as on KE and the planes are not as crazy hot as KE. On the ground experience worse than KE, but in flight still better than KE (marginally), mostly due to the solid product, new aircraft.
#28
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#29
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