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#76
Join Date: May 2015
Location: DCA
Programs: AA EXP, DL FO, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 6,712
Yeah that cap is completely ridiculous. I guess they figure that anyone buying a full-fare J ticket is a captive audience anyway. It's this sort of cynicism that make people hate the airlines.
#77
Join Date: Dec 2017
Programs: DL DM, UA, AA
Posts: 85
My $0.02 in a world where pennies are worthless... the DM MQD waiver was a great step in the right direction, but I still feel DL can do more to make DM more "elite." I would support raising MQMs to 150K - 200K while capping total non-flight MQMs at 50K. If I had a personal wish list, I'd like to see MQDs rollover as well, or at least give us a 50% rollover or, at the very least, allow us to gift excess MQDs. Give the top tier back to those who pay-up and fly the miles. Of course, all of this is just the ramblings of an old man stuck in a hotel room in SoCal.
#78
Used to be 'roachjl'
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: DL Platinum, Hilton Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 322
Meaningless as in Sky Priority doesn't mean much when everyone has it.
Useless as in it doesn't provide any benefits or value.
While Sky Priority is increasingly meaningless, it it isn't useless because it has some tangible value because it is still a higher priority boarding group.
Useless as in it doesn't provide any benefits or value.
While Sky Priority is increasingly meaningless, it it isn't useless because it has some tangible value because it is still a higher priority boarding group.
#79
Suspended
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: MEM
Programs: Starbucks Green Card
Posts: 5,431
Meaningless as in Sky Priority doesn't mean much when everyone has it.
Useless as in it doesn't provide any benefits or value.
While Sky Priority is increasingly meaningless, it it isn't useless because it has some tangible value because it is still a higher priority boarding group.
Useless as in it doesn't provide any benefits or value.
While Sky Priority is increasingly meaningless, it it isn't useless because it has some tangible value because it is still a higher priority boarding group.
#80
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ATL
Programs: DL DM, Hyatt LT DM, Wyndham DM, Hertz PC, HH Gold, SPG Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,038
I can't believe nobody has said it. The number of platinum or diamond elites has also swelled because Delta has given away the top two levels of elite status to many of its corporate customers. It seems like just a year or two ago, they made it absurdly easy for anyone from Seattle to get platinum status, as I recall. Then there's the issue of Sky Priority, which is meaningless these days because everyone has it. I've counted as many as 70 passengers on a MD-90 board either through premium boarding or Sky Priority boarding.
As so many others have said or implied, I don't necessarily take issue with increasing the requirements for elite status provided there are either enhancements or status quo in terms of mileage redemption and the value of the miles. It would also be nice if Delta was fair and transparent about not only award redemption, but also first-class monetization. Sadly, that hasn't been the case.
I also think we can all agree that the current MQM-earning requirements for each level are probably too low. 125,000 MQMs just isn't a lot these days, especially with the bonus MQMs one can get with a couple paid long-haul/medium-haul flights in paid business-class or first-class. Without adding a new tier, the levels should probably be:
25,000 (silver)
50,000 (gold)
100,000 (platinum)
150,000 (diamond)
As so many others have said or implied, I don't necessarily take issue with increasing the requirements for elite status provided there are either enhancements or status quo in terms of mileage redemption and the value of the miles. It would also be nice if Delta was fair and transparent about not only award redemption, but also first-class monetization. Sadly, that hasn't been the case.
I also think we can all agree that the current MQM-earning requirements for each level are probably too low. 125,000 MQMs just isn't a lot these days, especially with the bonus MQMs one can get with a couple paid long-haul/medium-haul flights in paid business-class or first-class. Without adding a new tier, the levels should probably be:
25,000 (silver)
50,000 (gold)
100,000 (platinum)
150,000 (diamond)
And as I said previously everyone things it's gamers... the gamers have Plan B and C. The waiver change is going to effect very little when the pax hit the terminal where it matters.
DYKWIA!.........
Please - everyone is all for changing the requirements for premium. So long as it doesn't impact them. How many people here would really willingly go back to FO status due to a DL change? None. That's how many. None.
The airlines screwed themselves here - they came up with these crazy schemes to "reward" high value fliers while still trying to keep loads up. If they would stop screwing Y and start treating everyone a little bit better then people might not care quite so much about the perks of status. But the airlines won't - it will cost them money. I suppose this will go on so long as their are people out there that think Diamond/1K/Whatever gets them something.
I do find it amusing that the airlines flat out told us they were going to screw us as loyal customers - make "elite" treatment more difficult and sell the F seats at a discount to whomever might by it ahead of giving it to us. the general response is "good! More for me!". This was even though they said the remaining elites would get less and the very people pushed out would likely get all the perks anyway albeit at a marginally higher cost. SMH.
Please - everyone is all for changing the requirements for premium. So long as it doesn't impact them. How many people here would really willingly go back to FO status due to a DL change? None. That's how many. None.
The airlines screwed themselves here - they came up with these crazy schemes to "reward" high value fliers while still trying to keep loads up. If they would stop screwing Y and start treating everyone a little bit better then people might not care quite so much about the perks of status. But the airlines won't - it will cost them money. I suppose this will go on so long as their are people out there that think Diamond/1K/Whatever gets them something.
I do find it amusing that the airlines flat out told us they were going to screw us as loyal customers - make "elite" treatment more difficult and sell the F seats at a discount to whomever might by it ahead of giving it to us. the general response is "good! More for me!". This was even though they said the remaining elites would get less and the very people pushed out would likely get all the perks anyway albeit at a marginally higher cost. SMH.
This is the biggest slap in the face of the 'people that spend the most' are most important. And then our 'most loyal'. The cap is just plain stupid. Buy a huge ticket and max out your mileage earned and it's MORE of a hit the higher status level you are. We value you but the max value we can give is this...