Ben Siegel

Hi,

My wife and I are traveling to Athens / Venice from MSP in May. We are flying MSP-AMS-ATH and then VCE-AMS-MSP. Is there any news on a 350 going on ANY routes from MSP? I know they are slowly adding new routes but I'm curious. We booked a z class fare and I'm super excited.

Thanks!

KDCAflyer

No, they're mostly out of DTW at this point. You're likely to get an A330.

MSPeconomist

I wouldn't expect an A350 on this route anytime soon. Sorry, but consider yourself lucky to get an A330 rather than the 767.

xliioper

The A350's are primarily considered to be 747 replacements for use on long-haul TPAC routes and were not intended for TATL routes. The shorter range A330-900neo order (starting in 2019) is intended for TATL routes like MSP-AMS as well as west coast TPAC routes. You can find this info in DL public statements such as the one below. The use of an A350 on one of the DTW-AMS frequencies is a bit of a surprise and I wouldn't draw any conclusions that we will see further deployments of A350's on TATL routes. I believe the A350 deliveries are a bit ahead of schedule which has likely enabled this particular flight.

Delta adds A350-900, A330-900neo to its fleet plan | Delta News Hub

minnyfly

I wouldn't expect an A350 at MSP for a long time. The best chance would be a possible future MSP-ICN flight. The A330 can cover everything is flies now. DL only has 15 A350s ordered through 2019 before the next round of 10 is scheduled starting in 2021, so they'll be limited everywhere except for DTW for the foreseeable future.

Deliveries are not ahead of schedule, and DTW-AMS is likely about aircraft utilization. DTW-AMS rotates nicely with DTW-Asia, and so it keeps an A350 in the air instead of sitting on the ground. Current schedules indicate a potential NRT-DTW-AMS-DTW-Asia rotation.

NWA_5479

I don't think the 767 has really been on MSP-AMS in the last 10-15 years, certainly not for any length of time. It looks like the remainder of winter a is A333/777 + KL a few times a week, then moving to 3X A333 in April, when KL moves to an A330 as well. Regardless, it is almost exclusively A333, though there is now a 777 in the rotation, and KLM's 787.

MCO Flyer

If you want to take the A350 to AMS, you can route through DTW as DL is adding the A350 on one of the DTW-AMS flights.

Duke787

This is what I would do. If you've already bought the tickets wait for a significant schedule change and then see if they'll put you onto the A350 from DTW

minnyfly

The 767 has been scheduled for MSP-AMS off and on since shortly after the merger, if I remember right the start of it. Lately it's been absent though.

MSPeconomist

Unfortunately, it's often been on the last MSP-AMS and vv nonstops of the day, which are the flights I like to take when possible. MSP-LHR has been the 767-400 for a while, but I haven't checked for aircraft type on the current schedule.

ChamplinAl

You might consider flying to DTW from MSP, there is a Daily A359 DTW-AMS that might work for you.

adavidw

MSPeconomist

RaflW

I too prefer the last flight of the night to AMS. Unfortunately, it looks like KL will take over that departure with their 787 at least some of the 2019 schedule. At my size, I just do not want the 3-3-3 Y cabin (and no C+) unless no other option is even remotely viable. I'm looking at a March trip to BCN, and the 10:15pm MSP-AMS is a KL 787, and the 8:13pm (flt 162, a long standing flight number) is operated by a 767.

(And on the particular day I'm considering, DL's web site is showing DL162 w/ seatmap for the ex-Gulf version. There are only four of these frames currently flying - two in storage. I wish they would be more specific about holding those 4 to a subset of route pairs to minimize last minute swap issues with seat assignments)

SW7London

Old thread I know however the OP should be grateful they have no risk of getting a 767 to AMS!

The clapped out Delta One cabin in those 767s used between MSP>LHR are getting long in the tooth, whats more Delta can charge a small fortune as they have no nonstop competition on the route.


(and apologies for going OT!)