Delta SkyClub Access Changes starting Jan 1, 2019
#91
#92
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,115
What arrogance. For every airport I benefit from SC use when I’m flying UA (ie BNA), there is another where I benefit from a UC while flying DL (ie SNA). That is a big reason I maintain both paid memberships. Count me as HATING this change.
#93
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,868
This is a bummer for me. I'm in a delta hub with just a single lounge in the whole airport (SLC). Unless I'm 100% loyal to Delta it means no lounge access for me when I fly anyone else.
Maybe we'll have more lounges when the new airport is built, but that will be a while...
Maybe we'll have more lounges when the new airport is built, but that will be a while...
#94
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 23,057
I suspect this might prove a challenge for any lawsuit --
https://web.archive.org/web/20030806...ules/index.jsp
https://web.archive.org/web/20030806...ules/index.jsp
- Crown Room facilities may be used only in conjunction with same-day ticketed air travel on Delta or Delta Connection® carriers.
#95
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 23,057
Effective in 2019, you say??
splendid, that won’t ruin my plan to
- still pick a skyclub membership as one of my CBs for 2018
- use SC in IAH and other United hubs I’m likely to frequent
- proclaiming loudly my newfound loyalty to United whenever the dragons scan my SC number and no corresponding DL itinerary pops up
Can’t wait, this will be FUN!!
splendid, that won’t ruin my plan to
- still pick a skyclub membership as one of my CBs for 2018
- use SC in IAH and other United hubs I’m likely to frequent
- proclaiming loudly my newfound loyalty to United whenever the dragons scan my SC number and no corresponding DL itinerary pops up
Can’t wait, this will be FUN!!
Last edited by xliioper; Nov 18, 2017 at 5:31 am
#96
Join Date: Oct 2005
Programs: DL 2MM PM;VSGld;EKGld; HilDia; HrtzPC; AvisPC; PP; AmbPlt; JumeiGld; MeliaPlt; TajPlt; ShangriDia
Posts: 953
There once was a day when the Sky Club was a "club." If Delta changes its policy to deny access to Sky Club members who are not flying on Delta, then it is really undermining the business model of even having a membership. Why would anyone pay for a Sky Club membership, when it is cheaper to gain access through a credit card? For many years, I have enjoyed the membership, such as in situations when I flew AS under the alliance and DL would deny access to credit card holders flying their AS Code Share flight, but still allow with the DL Sky Club membership. In addition, I have enjoyed having the DL membership as a way to access the AF Salon when I was flying DL out of IAD where there is no Sky Club. Similarly, I have used a United Club membership to access their club, when I fly DL out of SNA, where there is no Sky Club for DL flights.
Again, if I cannot be guaranteed access to a DL Sky Club, regardless of carrier that I fly, then I can simply drop the annual membership fee and continue entering the clubs for free using my AMEX Cent card which I will retain in any case, and which thus already provides me complimentary access on the margin. In effect, Delta is dropping the exact access policies that encouraged me to retain a paid membership, when I already have access through a credit card.
Again, if I cannot be guaranteed access to a DL Sky Club, regardless of carrier that I fly, then I can simply drop the annual membership fee and continue entering the clubs for free using my AMEX Cent card which I will retain in any case, and which thus already provides me complimentary access on the margin. In effect, Delta is dropping the exact access policies that encouraged me to retain a paid membership, when I already have access through a credit card.
#97
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: SEA, MKE, PSP
Programs: AS MVP75K
Posts: 396
I talked about this a few months ago...
Skyclub Executive membership must be flying delta to enter lounge
Skyclub Executive membership must be flying delta to enter lounge
#98
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: SEA, MKE, PSP
Programs: AS MVP75K
Posts: 396
This greatly affects me. Since I switched to AS a couple of years ago and am based in both SEA and MKE. I can see individual memberships or memberships under DM having the same day DL flight requirement. But executive memberships that people pay a high premium for should not have the requirement.
What about the $59 one time pass. Does that require the sameday DL flight requirement? If $59 membership allows you in but yet a ~$750 executive membership does not.
What about the $59 one time pass. Does that require the sameday DL flight requirement? If $59 membership allows you in but yet a ~$750 executive membership does not.
#99
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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Yes, the single visit pass already has DL (or partner) flight requirement --
- A Single Visit Pass must be used in conjunction with same-day ticketed air travel on Delta Air Lines or its partner airlines.
Last edited by xliioper; Nov 18, 2017 at 1:01 pm
#100
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,868
I talked about this a few months ago...
Skyclub Executive membership must be flying delta to enter lounge
Skyclub Executive membership must be flying delta to enter lounge
#101
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Twin Cities
Programs: Delta DM MM, IHG Plat, Hilton DM, Marriott SE, Emerald EE, Oakdale Gun Club, NRA & GOA Life Member
Posts: 3,870
#102
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: San Diego
Programs: IHG Spire Amb, HH Diamond, DL Diamond and 1MM
Posts: 3,611
The change sucks for SAN because the Delta and United clubs are right next to each other. I like to enter the Skyclub when flying United. I have to sometimes. Delta doesn't fly nonstop SAN-ORD, but United does, as an example. At least the change doesn't go into effect until 2019, which is exactly when I'll lose my Skyclub access because of Delta's new $250,000 cc spend required for maintaining Diamond status. Delta = always devaluing
#103
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ATL
Programs: DL DM, Hyatt LT DM, Wyndham DM, Hertz PC, HH Gold, SPG Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,038
I have used the lounge in situations where not on DL. Not that much but it's an issue.
#104
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: TYS
Programs: Delta Diamond 3MM, AMEX Delta Reserve, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Lifetime Titanium Elite
Posts: 208
#105
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Location: NYC
Posts: 27,234
Its also very likely explicitly prohibited in the COC or other terms of use (I believe it is on AA).
ETA- couldn't actually find any language in DL's COC...but here it is from AA:
- Fraudulent, fictitious and abusive bookings: Fraudulent, fictitious and/or abusive bookings are prohibited. These types of bookings are defined as any bookings made without having been requested by or on behalf of the named passenger. Additionally, creating bookings to hold or block seats for the purpose of obtaining lower fares, AAdvantage award inventory, or upgrades that may not otherwise be available, or to gain access to airport facilities, or to circumvent any of American Airlines' fare rules or policies, is prohibited without prior authorization from American Airlines.
Last edited by ijgordon; Nov 18, 2017 at 11:03 pm