My Bump and a Broken Promise...
#31
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If they do anything, I'd expect there to be some sort of cutoff -- anything over (say) $1000 and we'll send you a 1099...
#32
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If you haven't yet, I would also call the hotel and ask them to waive the no-show penalty. Quite often with IROPs, they will do so. Day of arrival i always better, and today may be too late, but I will still give it try.
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#34
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There may be a time when nobody other than the flight's GA can add someone to the standby list, but there is no such thing as "full". The list is prioritised. Even if there are 200 people on it (on a plane that seats 75), if a DM doing SDS comes along, he'll be at the top of the list.
#35
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There may be a time when nobody other than the flight's GA can add someone to the standby list, but there is no such thing as "full". The list is prioritised. Even if there are 200 people on it (on a plane that seats 75), if a DM doing SDS comes along, he'll be at the top of the list.
the standbys may be DL employees, even friends of the GA...they know a DM shooting to the top of the list is 1 less seat for their buddy on a pretty full flight, so its easy for them to just deny it
It's an awful thing because that's the whole point of being a Medallion...you are prioritized higher on things like the standby list...but it happens
#36
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True - but this is the same reason some suspect motivates GAs to deny the standby request within T-30...
the standbys may be DL employees, even friends of the GA...they know a DM shooting to the top of the list is 1 less seat for their buddy on a pretty full flight, so its easy for them to just deny it
It's an awful thing because that's the whole point of being a Medallion...you are prioritized higher on things like the standby list...but it happens
the standbys may be DL employees, even friends of the GA...they know a DM shooting to the top of the list is 1 less seat for their buddy on a pretty full flight, so its easy for them to just deny it
It's an awful thing because that's the whole point of being a Medallion...you are prioritized higher on things like the standby list...but it happens
#37
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I had a GA once tell me she couldn't add me to a standby list because it was full. I called the DM line and was added by them instantly. I didn't say anything to the GA but she looked a little surprised when I boarded the flight later.
#38
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That works great up until a point, somewhere around 30-60 min before departure. The DM line can add you but only the GA can activate you.
#39
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Usually the purpose of the trip determines that.
I would if the GA has mentioned the 30-minute later flight. Per the original deal, you were supposed to be delayed only for 30 minutes or so. When the GA changed the deal, the deal should be adjusted accordingly.
The amount of the voucher received is irrelevant in this case.
The amount of the voucher received is irrelevant in this case.
#40
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And here's the kicker, I'm DM and was flying paid first class.
As a sidebar, when we attempted to work out getting on an alternative flight to LGA, I had to go from gate B18 to A78 in DTW ... just about as far away as you can go in the terminal ... for a flight that was scheduled to depart in about 15 minutes.
I requested a Porsche, which the Red Coat arranged. At least I enjoyed that portion of my Delta experience last night!
#41
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Completely agree. I have had state government clients that have written in their operating procedures that all miles earned by employees are property of the state. The client admitted that they didn't know the last time the state used miles to buy a ticket - if ever - for employee travel. Also mentioned that employees keep the miles without issue.
The IRS has much bigger fish to fry then parsing VDB payments, come on!
The IRS has much bigger fish to fry then parsing VDB payments, come on!
Many many years ago, my father worked for a state. He said that they required that all miles earned when the state paid for travel be used on state business. So he used them to upgrade a ticket the state paid for (that's "using them on state business").
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I’m curious how he managed to pull that off ... I never had access to any of “my” miles earned on Boeing-booked tickets; in fact, I once specifically requested the travel department use some about-to-expire HP miles for an upcoming trip; the response was something like “they went into the pool, and they’ve been used already, so we can just use some pool miles for you” and I wound up on DL
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#43
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I’m curious how he managed to pull that off ... I never had access to any of “my” miles earned on Boeing-booked tickets; in fact, I once specifically requested the travel department use some about-to-expire HP miles for an upcoming trip; the response was something like “they went into the pool, and they’ve been used already, so we can just use some pool miles for you” and I wound up on DL
#44
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my Boeing/HP experience was miles accumulated 1994-1996 (mostly SEA<—>ICT) and an attempted 1997 redemption when I got the “pool” spiel
Boeing made it very clear from the inception of FF programs ~1981 that they paid for the tickets, and they therefore owned the miles ... a number of my co-workers and I were going SEA<—>BAL (now BWI) every week or two, generally on UA, and would seldom if ever fly the as-ticketed itineraries: it was a pretty simple matter to call UA to change SEA-ORD-BAL to SEA-DEN-BAL, swap tix at the airport (unlike some airlines, UA always returned the original passenger coupon in an exchange, making it very easy to file the expense report), and laugh about the “cheap staples” that the travel office had used to attach the Mileage Plus membership cards w the Boeing account numbers to the tickets
Boeing made it very clear from the inception of FF programs ~1981 that they paid for the tickets, and they therefore owned the miles ... a number of my co-workers and I were going SEA<—>BAL (now BWI) every week or two, generally on UA, and would seldom if ever fly the as-ticketed itineraries: it was a pretty simple matter to call UA to change SEA-ORD-BAL to SEA-DEN-BAL, swap tix at the airport (unlike some airlines, UA always returned the original passenger coupon in an exchange, making it very easy to file the expense report), and laugh about the “cheap staples” that the travel office had used to attach the Mileage Plus membership cards w the Boeing account numbers to the tickets
#45
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$4000 is a higher price for DBC?
I saw about other thread. That was from Atlanta to Narita flight by Delta. Nobody want to get a volunteer chance even if higher price offered.
Could you know which price is higher offer? I never heard more than $4000.
Could you know which price is higher offer? I never heard more than $4000.