Meeting a friend transition through JFK
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Meeting a friend transition through JFK
So I am trying to meet a friend transitioning through JFK T4 (CZ J) initiated from a domestic Delta F. There is only going to be an hr layover at JFK so ideally I would meet him at airside so he doesn't miss his connection. Will buying a refundable domestic delta ticket work in this case to meet him at JFK T4 SC?
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No need to engage in ticket fraud. Just ask the DL counter for a gate pass. Your reason is more than adequate.
But, do bear in mind that 60 minutes is an extremely tight connection given that he ought to be at his departure gate 30-40 minutes prior to departure and that only allows 20-30 minutes from the time the brakes are locked on his inbound to the time he makes it to his departure gate. Your friend stands a good chance of misconnecting if he stops to talk with out.
But, do bear in mind that 60 minutes is an extremely tight connection given that he ought to be at his departure gate 30-40 minutes prior to departure and that only allows 20-30 minutes from the time the brakes are locked on his inbound to the time he makes it to his departure gate. Your friend stands a good chance of misconnecting if he stops to talk with out.
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Not really realistic to see them. They need to head to gate and get new BP and possibly checkin. Also need yo be on board at least 30 minutes prior to departure.
Sorry, but friend will miss flight if you meet up with 1 hour layover.
Sorry, but friend will miss flight if you meet up with 1 hour layover.
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I didn't realize you can get a gate pass. Will definitely ask for that. Thanks for the reminder of the tight connection. It is an early morning flight so hopefully it won't be that bad. He will probably be taking air side shuttle from T2 to T4.
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The plane will be boarding before he even gets to the SC if coming from T2. You'll not even get 5 minutes together.
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Just checked with him again, connection is more reasonable: an an hr and 35 minutes.
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OP and other newbies - don't be scared by the "armchair legal" judgments of some posters on here who are sticklers. It is totally unnecessary, over the top, and inaccurate. It would be hilarious if these same posters could point to any case - either handled by DL, or taken to court - where purchasing and refunding a REFUNDABLE ticket once constituted fraud. Impossible, because it doesn't, and hasn't.
If you bought a refundable ticket, your plans changed (for any reason - and you do not need to disclose the reason to the airline) and you cancel/refund the ticket according to the airline's policies/timelines for a refund, you will be completely fine.
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While I admit, I never tried, I too would be shocked if you were able to obtain a gate pass. Just wanting to meet someone defeats the purpose of needing a tix to go through TSA security. I would think, and hope that gate passes are only issued for very very specific and pre defined purposes.
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Not that it addresses the OP's question, but I would not book the 1 hour connection in this case.
. D->I T2->T4 with JFK delays ican be risky even if all DL metal
. CZ checkin policy? Will OP even have a BP? Credentials check?
EDIT: Missed the change to 1:35. Better, but even then could be a case of him needing to go straight to the gate so I would suggest a plan to meet there if no phone contact suggests time to hit the SC.
. D->I T2->T4 with JFK delays ican be risky even if all DL metal
. CZ checkin policy? Will OP even have a BP? Credentials check?
EDIT: Missed the change to 1:35. Better, but even then could be a case of him needing to go straight to the gate so I would suggest a plan to meet there if no phone contact suggests time to hit the SC.
Last edited by exwannabe; Nov 5, 2017 at 1:58 pm
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Is it possible to obtain a gate pass a day earlier or at least talk to Delta folks to see if I can obtain one? Hate to go there and be told "sorry, can't do!"
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Not that it addresses the OP's question, but I would not book the 1 hour connection in this case.
. D->I T2->T4 with JFK delays ican be risky even if all DL metal
. CZ checkin policy? Will OP even have a BP? Credentials check?
EDIT: Missed the change to 1:35. Better, but even then could be a case of him needing to go straight to the gate so I would suggest a plan to meet there if no phone contact suggests time to hit the SC.
. D->I T2->T4 with JFK delays ican be risky even if all DL metal
. CZ checkin policy? Will OP even have a BP? Credentials check?
EDIT: Missed the change to 1:35. Better, but even then could be a case of him needing to go straight to the gate so I would suggest a plan to meet there if no phone contact suggests time to hit the SC.
Last edited by yoyo; Nov 5, 2017 at 7:05 pm
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While I admit, I never tried, I too would be shocked if you were able to obtain a gate pass. Just wanting to meet someone defeats the purpose of needing a tix to go through TSA security. I would think, and hope that gate passes are only issued for very very specific and pre defined purposes.