DL to Start MCO-AMS on 3/30/18
Aug 3, 2017, 12:19 pm
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Aug 3, 2017, 12:57 pm
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Aug 3, 2017, 12:58 pm
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Aug 3, 2017, 1:48 pm
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3/30 is roughly the start of the IATA summer season. It's often the date Delta starts new TATL service. So it makes sense.
Aug 3, 2017, 1:59 pm
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#2 ) The date's suspect -- April's a slow month across the pond into MCO - a period (after winter, before summer) in which many flights operate in lower frequency and require deep discounts to sell. There is no grade school spring break / etc. to help sell as there is in the USA. If MCO-AMS were to happen, a May start date seems more logical.
https://www.schoolholidayseurope.eu/
Aug 3, 2017, 2:02 pm
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If you look at that chart, there are a lot of cities on there. Most of those cities, DL never flew to non-stop from MCO.
Delta may have flown MCO to ORY, one-stop, but they never flew non-stop. If you look across at the ORY row, they are no numbers in those rows that show any flights ever non-stop. On the other hand, look at the Atlanta row. That row has numbers all across the board.
The early 1990 flight timetables do indeed show MCO-ORY with ONE flight number, but there is a note, that a change of planes is involved.
Until the November 1, 1991 purchase of Pan-Am, Delta flew across the Atlantic from ATL and CVG only. After the purchase, they flew across the Atlantic from numerous cities. Like I said earlier, they did fly briefly to FRA from MCO, but never non-stop from MCO to either Paris airport.
The only exception would be if you were on a one-time charter. But there was nothing regular.
Delta may have flown MCO to ORY, one-stop, but they never flew non-stop. If you look across at the ORY row, they are no numbers in those rows that show any flights ever non-stop. On the other hand, look at the Atlanta row. That row has numbers all across the board.
The early 1990 flight timetables do indeed show MCO-ORY with ONE flight number, but there is a note, that a change of planes is involved.
Until the November 1, 1991 purchase of Pan-Am, Delta flew across the Atlantic from ATL and CVG only. After the purchase, they flew across the Atlantic from numerous cities. Like I said earlier, they did fly briefly to FRA from MCO, but never non-stop from MCO to either Paris airport.
The only exception would be if you were on a one-time charter. But there was nothing regular.
Aug 3, 2017, 2:08 pm
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At the end of the day, MCO is a volume-driven market with amongst the lowest fares in the nation and that doesn't bond well for premium-heavy 767.
DL has always been pretty open (with in reason) with employees. Generally they don't put it in writing as much but at things like pilots meetings with Steve Dickerson they let out some information.
Also station managers would know about something like this pretty quickly, gotta give the company/station time to add any additional staff, vendors, get gates etc. etc. etc.
Having said that, if you are friends with someone in the know, its not very smart to come running to Flyertalk with it. Delta makes it pretty clear they don't want internal info like that released before they want it released......
Also station managers would know about something like this pretty quickly, gotta give the company/station time to add any additional staff, vendors, get gates etc. etc. etc.
Having said that, if you are friends with someone in the know, its not very smart to come running to Flyertalk with it. Delta makes it pretty clear they don't want internal info like that released before they want it released......
While it may not seem like a big deal to you, it is a big deal for DL as it lost control over the flow of information.
Aug 3, 2017, 3:02 pm
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DL has never shared proprietary information with menial employees. The control of information has long been a struggle for most companies and the presence of social media has magnified that plight. Case in point -- if this rumor proves to be true, the employee (who probably heard about it from station management, who didn't intend for her to share it) inadvertently got it all over FlyerTalk.
While it may not seem like a big deal to you, it is a big deal for DL as it lost control over the flow of information.
While it may not seem like a big deal to you, it is a big deal for DL as it lost control over the flow of information.
Aug 3, 2017, 3:14 pm
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Seriously? Would they even put the gear up for a flight that short?!
Aug 3, 2017, 3:20 pm
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Aug 3, 2017, 3:28 pm
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When was the last time you flew TATL from MCO? Living in JAX I occasionally drive to MCO for a TATL trip and my observations have show that those leisure people like the comforts of premium flight.
Aug 3, 2017, 3:31 pm
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If you look at that chart, there are a lot of cities on there. Most of those cities, DL never flew to non-stop from MCO.
Delta may have flown MCO to ORY, one-stop, but they never flew non-stop. If you look across at the ORY row, they are no numbers in those rows that show any flights ever non-stop. On the other hand, look at the Atlanta row. That row has numbers all across the board.
The early 1990 flight timetables do indeed show MCO-ORY with ONE flight number, but there is a note, that a change of planes is involved.
Until the November 1, 1991 purchase of Pan-Am, Delta flew across the Atlantic from ATL and CVG only. After the purchase, they flew across the Atlantic from numerous cities. Like I said earlier, they did fly briefly to FRA from MCO, but never non-stop from MCO to either Paris airport.
The only exception would be if you were on a one-time charter. But there was nothing regular.
Delta may have flown MCO to ORY, one-stop, but they never flew non-stop. If you look across at the ORY row, they are no numbers in those rows that show any flights ever non-stop. On the other hand, look at the Atlanta row. That row has numbers all across the board.
The early 1990 flight timetables do indeed show MCO-ORY with ONE flight number, but there is a note, that a change of planes is involved.
Until the November 1, 1991 purchase of Pan-Am, Delta flew across the Atlantic from ATL and CVG only. After the purchase, they flew across the Atlantic from numerous cities. Like I said earlier, they did fly briefly to FRA from MCO, but never non-stop from MCO to either Paris airport.
The only exception would be if you were on a one-time charter. But there was nothing regular.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...-orlando-delta
DL even took out an ad in the Sentinel promoting the non-stop flight:
http://orlandosentinel.newspapers.co...aris+june+1992
Aug 3, 2017, 4:08 pm
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Then explain to me how I personally acquired over 40 business cards from foreign nationals at two conferences I attended in Orlando last year? There are over 600 conferences/trade shows per year in the Orlando area. It would be great if you provided evidence towards your claims, because you've been wrong about spring break in European schools and the make-up of conference attendees in Orlando.
Aug 3, 2017, 4:31 pm
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Then explain to me how I personally acquired over 40 business cards from foreign nationals at two conferences I attended in Orlando last year? There are over 600 conferences/trade shows per year in the Orlando area. It would be great if you provided evidence towards your claims, because you've been wrong about spring break in European schools and the make-up of conference attendees in Orlando.
Interestingly, in an arena in which several posters have made "outrageous" claims more worth of airliners.net than FlyerTalk -- 'I often fly from MCO and I can assure you it's filled with premium traffic, etc.' -- thus far I'm the only poster who's provided data. So I ask you this: please provide some hard data showing that Orlando is a large, premium market and/or some data that shows Orlando's a large international convention market (as opposed to a large domestic convention market). (At that point, I'll share a 2014 UCF study that supports my claim).
In any event, all this for something that's just a rumor at this point, yet everybody's accepted it as face.