First A320 Retired Since Merger
Mar 29, 2017, 10:06 pm
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First A320 Retired Since Merger
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Flew for parts and scrapping in San Bernardino.
Flew for parts and scrapping in San Bernardino.
Mar 29, 2017, 10:11 pm
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Mar 29, 2017, 10:14 pm
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Compared to 757s and MD-88s at Delta, 26 years of service is on the short side. Check recent retirements of 757s, or in-service dates of the earliest MD-88s.
https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Delta-Air-Lines
https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Delta-Air-Lines
Mar 29, 2017, 10:28 pm
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good lord.
DC and MD jets have cycle limits just like Boeing and Airbus do. While MDs generally have higher cycle limits, depending on the airplane, the heavy checks, ADs and SBs basically make operating one over 30 years incredibly costly.
And someone could come up with an aging aircraft program for a 320 but just like a MD it wouldn't be worth it.
Airbus has gotten the 320 up the 75K cycles just like the 737NG. In 99.9% of cases that is more than enough.
Mar 29, 2017, 10:31 pm
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Compared to 757s and MD-88s at Delta, 26 years of service is on the short side. Check recent retirements of 757s, or in-service dates of the earliest MD-88s.
https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Delta-Air-Lines
https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Delta-Air-Lines
Apparently the 199 pax 757 is an economical beast right now. These A320s are being "replaced" by un-planned 199 seat 757s.
basically its boiling down to capacity has to come down. The small motor 320 fleet is the best target.
Mar 29, 2017, 10:34 pm
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Did you really just compare a non-pressurized prop to a pressurized jet?
good lord.
DC and MD jets have cycle limits just like Boeing and Airbus do. While MDs generally have higher cycle limits, depending on the airplane, the heavy checks, ADs and SBs basically make operating one over 30 years incredibly costly.
And someone could come up with an aging aircraft program for a 320 but just like a MD it wouldn't be worth it.
Airbus has gotten the 320 up the 75K cycles just like the 737NG. In 99.9% of cases that is more than enough.
good lord.
DC and MD jets have cycle limits just like Boeing and Airbus do. While MDs generally have higher cycle limits, depending on the airplane, the heavy checks, ADs and SBs basically make operating one over 30 years incredibly costly.
And someone could come up with an aging aircraft program for a 320 but just like a MD it wouldn't be worth it.
Airbus has gotten the 320 up the 75K cycles just like the 737NG. In 99.9% of cases that is more than enough.
And let's not talk about economics... The A380 has only been flying a little more than a decade and some carriers are desperately trying to ditch them.
Mar 30, 2017, 2:01 am
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Fine, there are still DC-9-10/15/20 series still flying. DC-8's were still operating until the fuel prices skyrocketed around 2007.
And let's not talk about economics... The A380 has only been flying a little more than a decade and some carriers are desperately trying to ditch them.
And let's not talk about economics... The A380 has only been flying a little more than a decade and some carriers are desperately trying to ditch them.
Mar 30, 2017, 2:12 am
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Airlines are ditching the A380 because it has more capacity than needed for all but a tiny number of routes, leaving a lot of dead weight being flown around. Passengers want the flexibility of multiple flights per day and, unless you have a route like JFK-CDG or JFK-LHR, going to an A380 is not practical for more than 1x daily flights
Mar 30, 2017, 8:56 am
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But if you want to read something really grim, you should look up the deferred costs on the 787. It's staggering. Likely it will all get paid off in the long run, but it was even still accumulating until recently.
But anyway, the former NWA management would be proud. The A320 in question served NW and DL well for many years. ^
Mar 30, 2017, 9:12 am
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Between the narrow, uncomfortable seats and the barking dog noise, I never liked the 320. Good riddance. But, I actually do like the refurbed planes. It's amazing what a decent interior does to change an opinion of an aircraft type.
Mar 30, 2017, 9:45 am
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Wow...that is the first post I've seen about A320 having narrow, uncomfortable seats.
Mar 30, 2017, 9:55 am
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Two carriers are trying to, some what, move their A380s. MH and TG. However neither are desperately trying to do so. BA would be more than happy to pick up from Trent 900s 380s on the used market, TG and MH are just charging too much.
Airbus has to worry about bad financial decisions just as much as Boeing does. Please prove this, in 2017 not 1980, to be false.
Mar 30, 2017, 11:32 am
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Airlines are ditching the A380 because it has more capacity than needed for all but a tiny number of routes, leaving a lot of dead weight being flown around. Passengers want the flexibility of multiple flights per day and, unless you have a route like JFK-CDG or JFK-LHR, going to an A380 is not practical for more than 1x daily flights
