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BHammy Dec 15, 2016 7:54 am


Originally Posted by readywhenyouare (Post 27614266)
ATL-ATL around the globe seasonally in December. 'The Medallion Re-Qualification Flight' It will use a modified CRJ-200 with an air to air refueling probe.

But I heard that route will be a westerly route - so darkness the entire way.

I wish they would have made it easterly to see two sunrises and sunsets and some scenery as well. :(

SEA-Flyer Dec 15, 2016 7:57 am


Originally Posted by airmotive (Post 27615379)
ATL/DTW-DEL/BOM

Delta pulled out of the BOM route a couple years ago because they said they couldn't compete with ME3. United seems to keep their non-stop flights full going both directions. If you can't make money with full planes, you can't make money. Hopefully the economics of the 350 can make direct access to India on DAL a reality.

I could see SEA - India routes being viable. There is strong local demand for that, plus they could pick up connecting traffic from the Western US.

SEA-Flyer Dec 15, 2016 8:02 am


Originally Posted by readywhenyouare (Post 27614266)
ATL-ATL around the globe seasonally in December. 'The Medallion Re-Qualification Flight' It will use a modified CRJ-200 with an air to air refueling probe.

That flight gets real fun after about the 11th hour when the lav becomes inoperable.

3Cforme Dec 15, 2016 8:28 am


Originally Posted by Duke787 (Post 27615294)
Wonder if they would give XXX - AKL a shot. The problem for DL is there isn't a logical XXX, SEA is out of the way, ATL doesn't get any west coast traffic, maybe LAX if they want to go head to head with AA and NZ on the route or SLC if they want it to be virtually all connecting passengers.

For DL, LAX may be the best of all possible gateways to AKL.

I'm not convinced that AA will keep LAX-AKL now that the DOT has killed the mooted AA-QF antitrust-immunized revenue sharing JV. Whether DL starts and gives them a push, waits for AA to quit, or doesn't begin xxx-AKL at all isn't something that's obvious, IMHO. U.S.-AKL is pretty thin, still, for a route that distance.

davetravels Dec 15, 2016 8:34 am

I think we should start seeing flights late next week from BNIP to all of the Delta (cargo) hubs . . . . . ;)













http://www.gcmap.com/airport/BINP





Merry Christmas, Scotty! :)

TrojanTraveler Dec 15, 2016 8:35 am


Originally Posted by third_wave (Post 27615374)
Not sure that anyone would take DL JFK-HKG when they could take the superior CX flights instead.

I think there are enough people who will fly DL just for the miles/credits towards status. But combining that with having to fly to SEA and change there? Not so much.

televisor Dec 15, 2016 8:46 am


Originally Posted by TrojanTraveler (Post 27615649)
I think there are enough people who will fly DL just for the miles/credits towards status. But combining that with having to fly to SEA and change there? Not so much.

People fly UA on EWR-HKG (or ORD-HKG), which pretty much proves loyalists would fly DL on that route too.

kop84 Dec 15, 2016 8:52 am


Originally Posted by airmotive (Post 27615379)
ATL/DTW-DEL/BOM

Delta pulled out of the BOM route a couple years ago because they said they couldn't compete with ME3. United seems to keep their non-stop flights full going both directions. If you can't make money with full planes, you can't make money. Hopefully the economics of the 350 can make direct access to India on DAL a reality.

I don't think the yields to India were that great to begin with. Now with the ME3 totally solidified there I highly doubt you'll see DL return to India any time soon.

pvn Dec 15, 2016 8:56 am


Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 27614124)
Hi all,

This thread is for future ultra long-haul flight.

ATL:

I can see Delta to resumes nonstop Atlanta to Tel Aviv, Israel again, but they tried it before. They couldn't have enough profitable. Due to low demands.

I can see Delta will resumes nonstop Atlanta to Dubai again, but they pulled out of Dubai completely due to ME3.

How about ATL-Cairo, Egypt or Amman, Jordan once A350-900XWB is delivered.

You will see ATL-CPT again, but they pull out of Cape Town completely. Due to low demands.

SEA

As for SEA, You will see ultra long-haul nonstop from Seattle to Singapore or Vietnam or Australia and New Zealand, as well. When the A350-900XWB is delivered.

As for Bangkok, I don't think you seeing SEA-BKK nonstop. Due to political reason.

Let the speculation begin.

Do you have any information that is informing these or is this just like your personal wishlist?

jimrpa Dec 15, 2016 9:27 am

Is there any talk of DL deferring their A350 orders and moving up their 787 orders after Jan 20, 2017? :D

jasoncrh Dec 15, 2016 9:36 am

LAX - ATL on AA
 
American primarily flies this route to cater to local o/d demand. They did not in any way start this route in order to feed passengers to QF or to their once a day routes to the South Pacific. While they probably do carry some of those passengers, it's not enough to fill 3 flights a day. Indeed, a good friend of mine in LA used the flight for 6 months in 2015 to commute to ATL every week for work. His client was in ATL and he flew out every Sunday and returned every Thursday in F. Said most of the people were the same every week up front and he started to recognize the crews and some of the other pax by face. Sure, it's anecdotal, but AA is trying to build up their LAX presence for biz pax like my friend, not just connectors to their long haul flights or their partner carriers. Again, those people will be on the plane for sure, but they're not the prime motivation for the flight.


Originally Posted by 3Cforme (Post 27615620)
For DL, LAX may be the best of all possible gateways to AKL.

I'm not convinced that AA will keep LAX-ATL now that the DOT has killed the mooted AA-QF antitrust-immunized revenue sharing JV. Whether DL starts and gives them a push, waits for AA to quit, or doesn't begin xxx-AKL at all isn't something that's obvious, IMHO. U.S.-AKL is pretty thin, still, for a route that distance.


davetravels Dec 15, 2016 9:39 am


Originally Posted by jimrpa (Post 27615941)
Is there any talk of DL deferring their A350 orders and moving up their 787 orders after Jan 20, 2017? :D

Or . . . . Maybe they can get a deal on the half built Air Force One - remove all of the gold wallpaper and trimmings, and convert it to Delta colors! :D

Zorak Dec 15, 2016 9:40 am


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 27615018)
Only if it's a direct flight with the same flight numbers on all segments.

The post I was replying to was a humorous implication of ATL-ATL non-stop with midair refueling ;)


Originally Posted by pvn (Post 27615769)
Do you have any information that is informing these or is this just like your personal wishlist?

That's kind of OP's thing.

TTT Dec 15, 2016 9:45 am


Originally Posted by 3Cforme (Post 27615620)
For DL, LAX may be the best of all possible gateways to AKL.

I'm not convinced that AA will keep LAX-ATL now that the DOT has killed the mooted AA-QF antitrust-immunized revenue sharing JV. Whether DL starts and gives them a push, waits for AA to quit, or doesn't begin xxx-AKL at all isn't something that's obvious, IMHO. U.S.-AKL is pretty thin, still, for a route that distance.

Would Delta's JV with VA cover a XXX-AKL?

3Cforme Dec 15, 2016 10:08 am


Originally Posted by jasoncrh (Post 27615997)
American primarily flies this route to cater to local o/d demand.

Sorry, jasoncrh. That was my typo: I meant LAX-AKL on AA.


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