GUC to JNB and/or CPT Oct 2017
#16
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You need to leave time to catch transportation to international terminal, and clear security as no airs idea connection at ORD. Your bags should be checked yhrough. If they don't then ask the check in agent to through tag them. klm is a partner they'll do so for on different tickets.
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Use the DL SC as long as possible. The KLM lounge is small and crowded. They'll give you access to the SC based on the other flights same day in KLM J.
You need to leave time to catch transportation to international terminal, and clear security as no airs idea connection at ORD. Your bags should be checked yhrough. If they don't then ask the check in agent to through tag them. klm is a partner they'll do so for on different tickets.
You need to leave time to catch transportation to international terminal, and clear security as no airs idea connection at ORD. Your bags should be checked yhrough. If they don't then ask the check in agent to through tag them. klm is a partner they'll do so for on different tickets.
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I am in early enough to get direct aisle access on the 747s and 777s so we'll see if future schedule changes make a mess of what I have.
#20
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I am in KL J ORD-AMS-CPT, CPT-AMS-ORD. When searching AMS-CPT alone on EF it shows 0 for Z. However, as a married segment with ORD or DTW then Z inventory shows up as 9 or 8, I think for both segments.
I am in early enough to get direct aisle access on the 747s and 777s so we'll see if future schedule changes make a mess of what I have.
I am in early enough to get direct aisle access on the 747s and 777s so we'll see if future schedule changes make a mess of what I have.
#21
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This is incorrect. I saw one seat listed a Z for JFK-CPT-AMS. When searching for CPT-AMS on 10/8, there is zero available in Z.
The OP needs to read this thread:
Delta Upgrade Certificate Availability Confusion (KLM Operated)
I had similar problems where I believe there should be some way to upgrade all segments in an itinerary when Z is available via married segments and OP is available on DL operated flights. However, hours on the phone with DL and asking FT did not get me anywhere.
The OP needs to read this thread:
Delta Upgrade Certificate Availability Confusion (KLM Operated)
I had similar problems where I believe there should be some way to upgrade all segments in an itinerary when Z is available via married segments and OP is available on DL operated flights. However, hours on the phone with DL and asking FT did not get me anywhere.
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Don't get me wrong, I'd be happy to be sent some proof / language either way. The only one example in this thread is the only one I have seen
#23
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Did we come to a quick answer to this one. If i search individual segments i do not find "Z available" If i search EWR-JNB connecting in AMS i see Z2 and Z2. I have called a few times to Delta Diamond and twitter and both are telling me it's not available.
thanks in advance
thanks in advance
#24
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Did we come to a quick answer to this one. If i search individual segments i do not find "Z available" If i search EWR-JNB connecting in AMS i see Z2 and Z2. I have called a few times to Delta Diamond and twitter and both are telling me it's not available.
thanks in advance
thanks in advance
The initial booking will likely be on DL and then DL/KL flights, as that lets you use any fare (whereas booking as a straight KL/KL flight requires a YBM fare).
Once ticketed, the agent will upgrade with prime flight numbers.
This can be tricky with KLM, as they enforce married segment availability (and sometimes show availability only if the entire trip is KL marketed). There very well could be Z space when looking at EWR-AMS-CPT availability, but that may only be given to DL if sold as KL/DL flights (which, as mentioned above, required a much higher fare). The agent can't do anything if KL denies the space. Supervisors can't even do anything there.