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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by Bowgie
OP, put your toddler son in row 2 Take your assigned seat in row 1.
One of two things will happen:

1. You son can see you in the row ahead, be reassured, and behave well.
2. Son pitches a fit, and Mr. Rude will change his mind and swap seats.

If Mr Rude gives you any 'tude, you can tell him to STFU.
I forgot to add a title: "Call his bluff"
this is the correct play
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 10:13 am
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Originally Posted by injera
Correct, this was actually his first flight not traveling infant in arms.

I get that people have the right to not want to switch seats and my needs to not get priority over your needs. At the same time, who would want to sit next to a toddler anyhow? Is there a rule that says he has to sit next to a parent? I could have just put him in his car seat, gone to my seat and let my son bother 2C the entire time; which would have been a lot worse for everyone involved.

Also - when assigning upgrades, does Delta ever think about splitting families apart? Presumably there have been times where a medallion and their companion are upgraded, arent sititng together but would rather be together in coach than apart in first? Also, would they have a way of knowing they just upgraded a 2 year old?

Next time i'll just uncheck the upgrade request box. But honestly i didnt think it would be an issue for this flight, as, again, who would rather sit next to a toddler over an adult?
Since your under 2 toddler was now traveling infant in arms...did you advise the GA so they could put the next person on the upgrade list into the seat you didn't use?
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 10:23 am
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Originally Posted by Bowgie
OP, put your toddler son in row 2 Take your assigned seat in row 1.
One of two things will happen:

1. You son can see you in the row ahead, be reassured, and behave well.
2. Son pitches a fit, and Mr. Rude will change his mind and swap seats.

If Mr Rude gives you any 'tude, you can tell him to STFU.
I forgot to add a title: "Call his bluff"
If he'd been polite, or even just terse, I wouldn't. But if someone wants to have a little hissy fit about his opinion about who should be allowed to travel how, he can spend his trip next to the 2 year old, since he's acting like one.
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 10:42 am
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I'd say you were perfectly reasonable to ask, and he was perfectly reasonable to decline, though he didn't need to be a jerk about it.

I'm surprised at how many people are advocating for allowing kids to run amok to "punish" someone for refusing to switch seats. Maybe this is why flyers brace themselves when they see a family with young kids coming?
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 10:49 am
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Originally Posted by strickerj
I'm surprised at how many people are advocating for allowing kids to run amok to "punish" someone for refusing to switch seats.
Nobody is doing this
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 10:53 am
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Originally Posted by pvn
Nobody is doing this
Maybe I misread it, but that sounds like what post 15 suggested.
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 11:00 am
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Post 15 suggested that the ticketed passenger sit in his assigned seat. It did not advocate for the OP to go out of his way to do anything to "punish" the person in the seat next to him.
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 11:01 am
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You're suggesting that merely bringing a child onto a plane is a "punishment" for the miserable jerks who think children should be locked in a basement their entire lives.
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 11:03 am
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Originally Posted by strickerj
Maybe I misread it, but that sounds like what post 15 suggested.
Seating the child in the seat assigned to him is hardly allowing him to run amok. Though there is no doubt it will inconvenience his seatmate. To the extent, that after a few minutes, HE might be asking Dad if he'd like to swap. And maybe become an advocate for DL applying some intelligence to family boarding in the event of upgrades or IRROPS.
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As someone who almost always flys alone and strongly believes children under the age of 30 should be placed in the overhead bin or stowed underneath the seat in front of you I would say that 2C is a jerk. Asking to switch aisle to window on a short flight in F is a trivial thing. This guy was acting like you were asking him to move back to 31b.
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 11:14 am
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Originally Posted by aCavalierInCoach
Maybe have a low denomination peets or starbucks card, and I'm speaking practically here -- I think you are far more likely to engender a positive response with even just the offer of some nominal recompense versus the alternative, which may strike the other passenger as you asking them to solve a problem you didn't manage on your own.
Yes, I should carry around gift cards to reward jerks.

Actually, this gave me a great idea. Buy a bunch of $5 gift cards, use them up for your normal coffee purchases, and then keep the $0 cards for this purpose.
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 11:15 am
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You're never wrong for asking to switch seats. Other passengers are never wrong for saying no. The only way either of you are wrong is if you're a jerk about it.
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 11:20 am
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Originally Posted by pvn
Yes, I should carry around gift cards to reward jerks.

Actually, this gave me a great idea. Buy a bunch of $5 gift cards, use them up for your normal coffee purchases, and then keep the $0 cards for this purpose.
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by javabytes
You're never wrong for asking to switch seats. Other passengers are never wrong for saying no. The only way either of you are wrong is if you're a jerk about it.
A great common sense perspective. Personally, I'd take this swap if I were asked.
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 11:34 am
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You did a GREAT thing having your infant son sit in your lap. That opened an extra seat for upgrade to someone else. It's especially good if the person who .....ed at you was your seat mate who had to get up three times to let you out.

Two questions:
Did you tell the gate agent/FA your son will be an INFT for proper passenger counting?
Was someone else upgraded into your son's vacated seat?
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