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Tedgrrrr Nov 28, 2016 2:20 pm


Originally Posted by Widgets (Post 27536364)
Well, you really can't store it in your seatback pocket... What if the other six times you haven't had an issue were because no one noticed, or they didn't care for the confrontation you seem to enjoy? "There wasn't a problem last time" is the most common excuse there is, and it's hard to deal with.

why can't it be stored in the seatback? It's height is 0.14–0.52 inch (0.35–1.31 cm); and width: 11.04 inches (28.05 cm).

No, they definitely noticed because I confirmed with each of them that i could use it while they handed drinks out during boarding.... whoever is disagreeing with me in this thread is ":confused:" and needs help.

Zorak Nov 28, 2016 2:29 pm


Originally Posted by Tedgrrrr (Post 27537700)
why can't it be stored in the seatback? It's height is 0.14–0.52 inch (0.35–1.31 cm); and width: 11.04 inches (28.05 cm).

It's not a question of whether it physically fits, but that the FAA doesn't want them there.

https://www.google.com/search?q=faa+...eatback+pocket

flyerCO Nov 28, 2016 3:29 pm


Originally Posted by Tedgrrrr (Post 27537700)
why can't it be stored in the seatback? It's height is 0.14–0.52 inch (0.35–1.31 cm); and width: 11.04 inches (28.05 cm).

No, they definitely noticed because I confirmed with each of them that i could use it while they handed drinks out during boarding.... whoever is disagreeing with me in this thread is ":confused:" and needs help.

You've don't realize all airlines have an out. They specifically allow employees to make a determination something isn't safe and you have to follow it.

Sorry that you don't understand that you're not special. Airline employee says do something you do it. File a complaint if you like. However the airline is going to back the employee generally and especially in the circumstances you describe.

If everyone is disagreeing with you, which is odd on FT, then you need to look in the mirror.

Tedgrrrr Nov 29, 2016 8:38 pm


Originally Posted by flyerCO (Post 27538024)
You've don't realize all airlines have an out. They specifically allow employees to make a determination something isn't safe and you have to follow it.

Sorry that you don't understand that you're not special. Airline employee says do something you do it. File a complaint if you like. However the airline is going to back the employee generally and especially in the circumstances you describe.

If everyone is disagreeing with you, which is odd on FT, then you need to look in the mirror.

The employee didn't make a determination it wasn't safe - she claimed that it was against the rules to have any laptop, irrespective of size out; and refused to consult her flight attendant manual. If she had said "yes, we allow that are approximately 2 lbs but for blah blah blah reason we need it stored" - that is one thing. If she says "we don't allow laptops, we've never allowed laptops, it does not matter the size; and I'm not going to consult my manual or look at the delta website you pulled up on your phone" - that is something completely different.

I actually ran into same issue yesterday, and that FA gave me the benefit of the doubt and said "really?" - when I told her about the rule - and I later pulled it up on my phone once we were in the air. That is the way things should be done - either that, or consult the manual immediately.

And if she had said "your laptop is 0.3 too heavy" then I would have immediately complied. But she simply said "no laptops ever, FAA rule; not going to look it up" - that puts her in the wrong - and i can't believe people are siding with her - though it seems they are siding with her based on 0.3 pounds of which she was unaware and misses the point entirely that she should simply consult the manual.

javabytes Nov 29, 2016 9:04 pm

So in this scenario the FA was right, but was wrong about why she was right, and that makes you right?

Tedgrrrr Nov 29, 2016 9:08 pm


Originally Posted by javabytes (Post 27544520)
So in this scenario the FA was right, but was wrong about why she was right, and that makes you right?

no, i'm right because it says "should" be 2lbs or less to allow for small variances.

She was wrong for refusing to look the rule up and claiming it did not exist, and refusing to believe when I told her that i have used my 2.03 lb macbook on over 50 taxis (spelling?) with DL

javabytes Nov 29, 2016 9:49 pm


Originally Posted by Tedgrrrr (Post 27544530)
no, i'm right because it says "should" be 2lbs or less to allow for small variances.

She was wrong for refusing to look the rule up and claiming it did not exist, and refusing to believe when I told her that i have used my 2.03 lb macbook on over 50 taxis (spelling?) with DL

Then 49 of the flight attendants let you slide. The policy is abundantly clear: the weight restriction is less than 2 pounds. 2.03 is not less than 2. You seem to think the word "should" makes this a suggestion rather than a rule. However if you read the full policy:


DVD players, laptop computers, and other devices that exceed the size/weight restrictions must be stowed for taxi, takeoff and landing.

MEMLawGuy Nov 29, 2016 10:12 pm

Here's some advice: Just put the thing away, breathe, and enjoy a short taxi/break away from what obviously must be a very, very stressful life.

No business or personal matter is that urgent that you must have your laptop out and able to be working for 50+ straight flights gate to gate.

Goosfraba.

United747 Nov 29, 2016 10:12 pm

I've wasted time reading this so here's my 2¢:

OP, have you ever been hit in the head by anything 2lbs or less flying through the cabin?

I have (hardcover book) and it hurts like he!! And draws blood. I'd much rather have you store your precious metal laptop for 20-40 minutes before takeoff and after landing so I don't get hit again.

yohanson Nov 29, 2016 10:35 pm

The young woman sitting next to me last night was asked to put her small laptop away before landing. She didn't right away and I immediately thought of this thread. She finished up her work and started stowing within a minute. Go figure.

TrojanTraveler Nov 30, 2016 6:56 am


Originally Posted by United747 (Post 27544751)
I've wasted time reading this so here's my 2¢:

OP, have you ever been hit in the head by anything 2lbs or less flying through the cabin?

I have (hardcover book) and it hurts like he!! And draws blood. I'd much rather have you store your precious metal laptop for 20-40 minutes before takeoff and after landing so I don't get hit again.

I have as well, years ago something small fell out of the overhead during very bad turbulence and a few bins opened. And it did hurt like hell.

nogophers Nov 30, 2016 8:19 am


Originally Posted by MEMLawGuy (Post 27544747)
Here's some advice: Just put the thing away, breathe, and enjoy a short taxi/break away from what obviously must be a very, very stressful life.

No business or personal matter is that urgent that you must have your laptop out and able to be working for 50+ straight flights gate to gate.

Goosfraba.

This is the best post on this thread. Unfortunately, the OP is either a troll (my opinion) or simply too enamored with himself that he will fail to admit that he's being a di*k.

Good luck to the OP and all the hard-working FA's that have to put up with him.

Beckles Nov 30, 2016 8:20 am


Originally Posted by javabytes (Post 27544649)
However if you read the full policy:

DVD players, laptop computers, and other devices that exceed the size/weight restrictions must be stowed for taxi, takeoff and landing.

I've been following this but haven't commented until now, that has always been my understanding is that the policy is laptops must be stowed, period. It seems like they say that on every flight.

Tedgrrrr Nov 30, 2016 8:22 am


Originally Posted by Beckles (Post 27546324)
I've been following this but haven't commented until now, that has always been my understanding is that the policy is laptops must be stowed, period. It seems like they say that on every flight.

Everyone here seems to have the same understanding which is the reason for the hostilities, but look at the delta website -

http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...c-devices.html

Which Devices Can I Use During All Phases Of Flight?

You may use the following devices from gate to gate on Delta and Delta Connection flights:
• AM/FM or satellite radios
• digital and video cameras
• calculators
• Delta-installed equipment such as in-flight entertainment systems
• DVD players*
• e-readers
• electric shavers
• electronic/digital watches
• global positioning system (GPS) receivers
• handheld computer games
• headphones
• laptop computers*
• medical devices**, ***
• noise reduction headphones
• portable media players*
• pagers
• smartphones and any device with cellular network service must be turned off or in airplane mode
• tablets and wireless keyboards or mouse

PED use on the ground and during takeoff and landing should be limited to small, lightweight devices less than 2 lbs. These devices should be of a size that could easily be secured in a seat pocket without exceeding the designed weight capacity of 3 lbs. including all contents of seat pocket (safety card, Sky magazine, airsickness bag) and not impede emergency egress to the aisle.
* DVD players, laptop computers, and other devices that exceed the size/weight restrictions must be stowed for taxi, takeoff and landing.

Beckles Nov 30, 2016 8:30 am


Originally Posted by Tedgrrrr (Post 27546335)
Everyone here seems to have the same understanding which is the reason for the hostilities, but look at the delta website -

http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...c-devices.html

Which Devices Can I Use During All Phases Of Flight?

You may use the following devices from gate to gate on Delta and Delta Connection flights:
• AM/FM or satellite radios
• digital and video cameras
• calculators
• Delta-installed equipment such as in-flight entertainment systems
• DVD players*
• e-readers
• electric shavers
• electronic/digital watches
• global positioning system (GPS) receivers
• handheld computer games
• headphones
• laptop computers*
• medical devices**, ***
• noise reduction headphones
• portable media players*
• pagers
• smartphones and any device with cellular network service must be turned off or in airplane mode
• tablets and wireless keyboards or mouse

PED use on the ground and during takeoff and landing should be limited to small, lightweight devices less than 2 lbs. These devices should be of a size that could easily be secured in a seat pocket without exceeding the designed weight capacity of 3 lbs. including all contents of seat pocket (safety card, Sky magazine, airsickness bag) and not impede emergency egress to the aisle.
* DVD players, laptop computers, and other devices that exceed the size/weight restrictions must be stowed for taxi, takeoff and landing.

Right, you can't use it during taxi, takeoff, or landing, it clearly says that, and it seems like they say that on every single flight (if not, then they're probably violating procedures).

Why even have it on the list? Well, you are allowed to use laptops and DVD players after you board and are sitting at the gate before you begin taxiing or after you arrive and are sitting at the gate and not taxiing, that's why they are on the list but then asterisked.


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