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pvn Nov 27, 2016 8:26 am


Originally Posted by readywhenyouare (Post 27527287)
It's just a tool to make the flight attendant reconsider their abuse of power. I've never actually called a field office. Handing them a business card is usually enough to get them in a better attitude.

Are you representing yourself as a federal employee when you're not? THis sounds like the dumbest plan ever, especially with cheapo printed out business cards.

pvn Nov 27, 2016 8:27 am

Do you know who I'm pretending to be?

jimrpa Nov 27, 2016 10:16 am


Originally Posted by Tedgrrrr (Post 27531854)
It didn't need to be stowed - the rule says "should" weigh less than 2 pounds and must fit in the seat back pocket - my laptop fits the "should" and must criteria. Also, I am almost always in bulkhead so can't store in front of me. I flew three flights yesterday and was allowed to use on all three. It is just the one FA who didn't know what she was doing on the flight that started this thread....

I'm still unsure what all the fuss is about. I'm pretty sure you received a preflight briefing where you were informed that, per FAA regulations, you'd have to follow the instructions of uniformed crew members. It sounds to me like you received an instruction from a uniformed crew member.

televisor Nov 27, 2016 10:36 am

Fro the FAA themselves


If someone gets caught using a PED before an airline changes its policy, can the FAA fine that passenger?

A safe flight should be everyone's priority. If a crew member says devices must be turned off when the cabin door closes or before landing, it means the airline hasn't yet shown its airplanes can actually handle PED use safely. You must always follow crew instructions; failure to do so may result in a fine.
More importantly:

Why do I have to stow a laptop and not a tablet?

If there's an emergency, larger and heavier items such as standard laptops could impede evacuation of the airplane. This is the same reason tray tables must be stowed and seat backs must be upright.
Nothing about weight here, it's the shape and size when unfolded (and not just the weight).

If you're still too important to put away your laptop, please start flying private.

(All from: https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/ped/faq/ )

davetravels Nov 27, 2016 10:46 am


Originally Posted by televisor (Post 27532559)
If you're still too important to put away your laptop, please start flying private.

Are you allowed to keep a laptop out / open during taxi / takeoff / landing, even on a private plane, say, NetJets or DPJ?!?

flyerCO Nov 27, 2016 4:34 pm


Originally Posted by davetravels (Post 27532589)
Are you allowed to keep a laptop out / open during taxi / takeoff / landing, even on a private plane, say, NetJets or DPJ?!?

Yes, but you're not going to impede others or cause injury when it goes flying.

pbarnette Nov 27, 2016 4:57 pm


Originally Posted by Tedgrrrr (Post 27531854)
It didn't need to be stowed - the rule says "should" weigh less than 2 pounds and must fit in the seat back pocket - my laptop fits the "should" and must criteria. Also, I am almost always in bulkhead so can't store in front of me. I flew three flights yesterday and was allowed to use on all three. It is just the one FA who didn't know what she was doing on the flight that started this thread....

Your laptop doesn't fit the "should" criteria as it is more than 2 pounds.

Get a lighter laptop. Given you are Mr. Important Business Boy, I'm sure you can afford it.

davetravels Nov 27, 2016 5:22 pm


Originally Posted by flyerCO (Post 27533744)
Yes, but you're not going to impede others or cause injury when it goes flying.

Only if you're alone. Isn't there usually a FA on board, and your fellow business colleagues, perhaps?

jackplum Nov 27, 2016 10:41 pm


Originally Posted by Tedgrrrr (Post 27531854)
It didn't need to be stowed - the rule says "should" weigh less than 2 pounds and must fit in the seat back pocket - my laptop fits the "should" and must criteria. Also, I am almost always in bulkhead so can't store in front of me. I flew three flights yesterday and was allowed to use on all three. It is just the one FA who didn't know what she was doing on the flight that started this thread....

Are you saying that you are the FA who didn't know what your were doing on the flight and started this thread?

wandering_nomad Nov 28, 2016 3:06 am


Originally Posted by Tedgrrrr (Post 27531854)
It didn't need to be stowed - the rule says "should" weigh less than 2 pounds and must fit in the seat back pocket - my laptop fits the "should" and must criteria. Also, I am almost always in bulkhead so can't store in front of me. I flew three flights yesterday and was allowed to use on all three. It is just the one FA who didn't know what she was doing on the flight that started this thread....


Or maybe just the one FA taking her job very seriously and not taking chances when it comes to passenger safety. Wouldn't you feel guilty if there was some sort of accident on taxi and your beloved 2.00000001 lb laptop flew from your traytable and knocked some poor bloke in the head? Even if you can't consider how there is a small chance of it hurting others, there is a slightly larger chance you could damage the laptop itself and lose super sensitive business secrets?

Obviously it's not fun to be in the wrong, but it takes a lot of courage to just say "Meh, I might not agree with the interpretation of the rules, but I should respect authority and just suck it up"


P.S. I think I have the same laptop as you and it fits inside the seat pocket fine for me (even in bulkhead). And "should" doesn't seem so open to interpretation to me here.

Tedgrrrr Nov 28, 2016 9:24 am


Originally Posted by wandering_nomad (Post 27535262)
Or maybe just the one FA taking her job very seriously and not taking chances when it comes to passenger safety. Wouldn't you feel guilty if there was some sort of accident on taxi and your beloved 2.00000001 lb laptop flew from your traytable and knocked some poor bloke in the head? Even if you can't consider how there is a small chance of it hurting others, there is a slightly larger chance you could damage the laptop itself and lose super sensitive business secrets?

Obviously it's not fun to be in the wrong, but it takes a lot of courage to just say "Meh, I might not agree with the interpretation of the rules, but I should respect authority and just suck it up"


P.S. I think I have the same laptop as you and it fits inside the seat pocket fine for me (even in bulkhead). And "should" doesn't seem so open to interpretation to me here.

right, but the FA who took view that I couldn't use it also said I could not store it in front of me.... - she was incompetent plain and simple. I have since flown 6 times using my laptop without issue.

Widgets Nov 28, 2016 9:33 am


Originally Posted by Tedgrrrr (Post 27536341)
right, but the FA who took view that I couldn't use it also said I could not store it in front of me.... - she was incompetent plain and simple. I have since flown 6 times using my laptop without issue.

Well, you really can't store it in your seatback pocket... What if the other six times you haven't had an issue were because no one noticed, or they didn't care for the confrontation you seem to enjoy? "There wasn't a problem last time" is the most common excuse there is, and it's hard to deal with.

yohanson Nov 28, 2016 10:51 am


Originally Posted by Tedgrrrr (Post 27536341)
right, but the FA who took view that I couldn't use it also said I could not store it in front of me.... - she was incompetent plain and simple. I have since flown 6 times using my laptop without issue.

If it's too big to be out during takeoff and landing, it's too big for the seat pocket. She was consistent.

bubbashow Nov 28, 2016 11:07 am


Originally Posted by emrdoc (Post 27527318)
Crazy number of flights and I have NEVER had an issue with an FA. If a traveler has issues with FA's often enough that he needs to carry FAA business cards, then I think he needs to look in the mirror to see the real antagonist.

THIS x 100000!

jimrpa Nov 28, 2016 12:57 pm


Originally Posted by Tedgrrrr (Post 27536341)
right, but the FA who took view that I couldn't use it also said I could not store it in front of me.... - she was incompetent plain and simple. I have since flown 6 times using my laptop without issue.

"But officer, I was speeding yesterday and nobody pulled me over! You're just not being fair! I was only doing 0,03 miles over the speed limit anyway and I'm so important!" :rolleyes:


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