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Jul 25, 2016, 8:51 am

#31

Carl Johnson

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Originally Posted by pvn

Having a confirmed seat given away to someone else is a much bigger deal that an upgrade where you never had a F assignment not being processed correctly.

No it isn't.

I would word your statement differently. For "someone else," I would substitute "the rightful owner," and I would reach a different conclusion based on the realization that the principle "finders keepers" isn't supposed to be followed.

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Jul 25, 2016, 9:30 am

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I would think the RUC should be returned and who-ever processed the upgrade list retrained.

Jul 25, 2016, 9:37 am

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Originally Posted by Carl Johnson

No it isn't.

I would word your statement different. For "someone else," I would substitute "the rightful owner," and I would reach a different conclusion based on the realization that the principle "finders keepers" isn't supposed to be followed.

Well, nobody owns a seat on the plane, but I think you misunderstood my post anyway.

Jul 25, 2016, 4:42 pm

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Carl Johnson

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Originally Posted by pvn

Well, nobody owns a seat on the plane, but I think you misunderstood my post anyway.

I understood your post perfectly, but I would argue as follows:

Having a wrongfully confirmed seat taken away and given to the passenger who should rightfully been confirmed into it is not as big a deal as being wrongfully denied an upgrade where you never had the F assignment that you rightfully should have had.

Jul 25, 2016, 7:20 pm

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FYI - Y fares don't trump medallion status anymore for upgrades. A DM on a low fare will be higher than a PM on a full Y fare now.

Jul 25, 2016, 7:48 pm

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Originally Posted by Carl Johnson

Yeah, you didn't understand my post. The "confirmed seat" in my post was not a "wrongfully" assigned seat. I was referring to appleguru who was in paid F with a confirmed seat that was reassigned because the gate agent assumed they wouldn't make the connection when in fact there was still a possibility that they would (and did).

Jul 25, 2016, 9:46 pm

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Originally Posted by Allan38103

Whoever wrote this headline should reconsider its content.

QUOTE:

she said "they didn't book my ticket correctly, because I paid H fare but was showing a Y-fare"..

OP was given a "reason". He just didn't like what he was told.

AFAIK, paid/flown is how the system has been supposed to work since about 2014. A rebooking agent will often push a low fare class change to Y during IRROPS in order get better inventory options.

The 2014 rules closed a loophole where someone flying deep discount coach who hit an IRROPS issue that resulted in them getting pushed into a higher fare class as part of rebooking getting multiplier miles for that higher fare class instead of the fare class they paid for. I suspect that you're supposed to still be H rather than Y for general upgrade purposes but it seems like the certificate should have trumped that.

Jul 26, 2016, 12:55 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pvn

Based on your previous performance, I'm going to guess that "whether you're OK with it" and "whether you stand to gain or lose from it" just happen to coincide.

You mean the performance where others agreed with me and you were referred to as a troll (which you are). That performance? I'll help you out and show you that others even agreed - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-delta-22.html

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Now who agreed with you at all?