VDB Negotiation
#16
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LOUD NOISES!
I am far from an apologist, but you fly enough to know the game, yet you tried to get something extra from the game. Could the gate agent have cared more about your inconsequential issue---sure! Nothing that I would have gotten too worked up about (or asked a supervisor for), especially since I am just ahead $500.
I am far from an apologist, but you fly enough to know the game, yet you tried to get something extra from the game. Could the gate agent have cared more about your inconsequential issue---sure! Nothing that I would have gotten too worked up about (or asked a supervisor for), especially since I am just ahead $500.
And why do you feel the need to be insulting by referring to my issue as inconsequential? I was just relating an experience I had and having a discussion. I made no claim that this was an earth shattering event.
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So an agent said, "we'll never go over $500 today." And then there were a couple of "must flys" and another agent offered more.
That happens. It happens every day. On DL and other carriers too.
Can't wait to see what happens after the supervisor wrote this one up and OP tries to VDB another time.
That happens. It happens every day. On DL and other carriers too.
Can't wait to see what happens after the supervisor wrote this one up and OP tries to VDB another time.
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This is the part I have never heard before:
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My most recent VDB, in September, I bid $300 at the kiosk / online (I can't remember which). When I got to the gate, the GA said she probably would need volunteers. I asked what the current deal was. She said $500. I asked her nicely as to why I had recently heard offers at some gates of up to $800. She said . . . .
$500 is the top offer. If you don't want it, somebody else will take it. Then, she looked up me reservation and said . . . .
You only bid $300! What are you complaining about!!! You're getting $200 more!
So, even though mine was in September, I still say BUNK to the above theory that you can't negotiate for more at the gate. if they need'ja - - THEY NEED'JA!!! I know there are several GAs who post here. Maybe they can chime in!

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My most recent VDB, in September, I bid $300 at the kiosk / online (I can't remember which). When I got to the gate, the GA said she probably would need volunteers. I asked what the current deal was. She said $500. I asked her nicely as to why I had recently heard offers at some gates of up to $800. She said . . . .
$500 is the top offer. If you don't want it, somebody else will take it. Then, she looked up me reservation and said . . . .
You only bid $300! What are you complaining about!!! You're getting $200 more!
So, even though mine was in September, I still say BUNK to the above theory that you can't negotiate for more at the gate. if they need'ja - - THEY NEED'JA!!! I know there are several GAs who post here. Maybe they can chime in!

Thank you for actually reading.
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And you are not having a discussion. Anyone that disagrees (which at this count...is pretty much everyone) is just an apologist that doesn't understand how your experience is a reflection of how society as a whole needs improving.
My first post in response, I tried to be helpful (Never put a $$ amount in the OLCI).
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It shouldn't be insulting. Your issue, in the grand scheme of what they deal with day to day, is inconsequential. It's just a fact.
And you are not having a discussion. Anyone that disagrees (which at this count...is pretty much everyone) is just an apologist that doesn't understand how your experience is a reflection of how society as a whole needs improving.
My first post in response, I tried to be helpful (Never put a $$ amount in the OLCI).
And you are not having a discussion. Anyone that disagrees (which at this count...is pretty much everyone) is just an apologist that doesn't understand how your experience is a reflection of how society as a whole needs improving.
My first post in response, I tried to be helpful (Never put a $$ amount in the OLCI).
In all seriousness though - why do so many think that escalating when a Red Coat is being rude to you is silly, entitled, or <INSERT DENEGRATING TERM HERE>? I'm genuinely interested in your thoughts.
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In my experience, the problem with this, is that, they take the people who vol online first. In my example above, I had inquired at the gate if the GA would need volunteers, and she said, probably, but she already had enough names. I was VERY disappointed! When she looked me up, she told me I WAS ONE OF THEM, because I vol'd ONLINE!
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In my experience, the problem with this, is that, they take the people who vol online first. In my example above, I had inquired at the gate if the GA would need volunteers, and she said, probably, but she already had enough names. I was VERY disappointed! When she looked me up, she told me I WAS ONE OF THEM, because I vol'd ONLINE!
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In my experience, the problem with this, is that, they take the people who vol online first. In my example above, I had inquired at the gate if the GA would need volunteers, and she said, probably, but she already had enough names. I was VERY disappointed! When she looked me up, she told me I WAS ONE OF THEM, because I vol'd ONLINE!
Fair point. I guess I look at as I would be unwilling to take less than $600 or so, so I never enter the $500 maximum. I should have put that caveat. If $500 was good enough for me, than it makes sense to use. (but just be happy to have gotten it!)
EDIT: I did not realize that Delta now allows you to enter your own amount in (up to $800). I will definitely take advantage of that going forward.
I did read the OP. To me it sounded like other flights were getting offers for more for shorter layovers and the OP was annoyed by the response/attitude of the red coat handling his inquiry as to why that was.
Just to me, seems like they made a big deal of a situation where they started off happy to get $500. If you fly all the time, and a situation like this gets you worked up enough to get a supervisor, I just don't know how you do it.
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Fair point. I guess I look at as I would be unwilling to take less than $600 or so, so I never enter the $500 maximum. I should have put that caveat.
I did read the OP. To me it sounded like other flights were getting offers for more for shorter layovers and the OP was annoyed by the response/attitude of the red coat handling his inquiry as to why that was.
Just to me, seems like they made a big deal of a situation where they started off happy to get $500. If you fly all the time, and a situation like this gets you worked up enough to get a supervisor, I just don't know how you do it.
I did read the OP. To me it sounded like other flights were getting offers for more for shorter layovers and the OP was annoyed by the response/attitude of the red coat handling his inquiry as to why that was.
Just to me, seems like they made a big deal of a situation where they started off happy to get $500. If you fly all the time, and a situation like this gets you worked up enough to get a supervisor, I just don't know how you do it.
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Maybe the flight wasn't overbooked/oversold at the point when she checked in. Don't forget that, a flight's availability can teeter totter back and forth between Y0 and Y1 or more frequently, depending on operational situations throughout the day.
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You're making a valid point. I probably let me annoyance at my last few trips where they did screw up royally (Like rebooking my young niece and nephew on a different flight than my sister and me without telling us). Its entirely possible that I'm just on a run of bad luck - not out of the realm of possibility that the Red Coat was having a bad day. And its not like I could jump ship right away if I wanted to - booked pretty solid through the summer.
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I guess that's possible - I only mentioned it because we were sitting on our phones checking in together. Mine went through a few seconds before hers. I wouldn't have thought that the inventory would shift so quickly but on second thought it could.
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So the OP was told something was new Delta policy. Knowing how front line people sometimes don't know the rules as well as we do but also knowing that Delta does change the rules with no notice (and often no notification) they went to a higher lever person -- who in theory should be more knowledgable -- to inquire as the current state of the rules.
That higher level person at that point was unnecessarily rude to the OP, who then escalated to a supervisor.
I don't see that as unreasonable, but this is FT, so of course they are fair game...
That higher level person at that point was unnecessarily rude to the OP, who then escalated to a supervisor.
I don't see that as unreasonable, but this is FT, so of course they are fair game...

