A surprising Skymiles program 'down under'
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: GA
Programs: VA-SLV, QF-GLD, DL-PM, UA-ex1K, AA-exPLT, HH-DM, IHG-PLT, MR-GLD
Posts: 8,353
A surprising Skymiles program 'down under'
I recently moved to Australia and so had resigned myself to forgetting about any FF programs. I wasn't going to move to AA and I didn't think Virgin Australia and Delta were that close of a partnership. Certainly most pacific partners aren't treated well anymore in terms of earnings or reciprocal benefits.
Boy am I happily surprised! I get the following benefits on Virgin Australia so far as a Diamond:
- Lounge access (and much better lounges than the Sky Club)
- Free checked bags (I even checked four bags on one leg with no charge! I doubt this is legal but gives an idea of the great service)
- at least 100% MQMs on all the flights so far (150% on one flight). I know some give less but it seems most published fares are 100%
- Skymiles earned on DISTANCE TRAVELED! Lord have mercy
- Diamond mileage bonus of 120% of distance traveled
- Priority check-in, priority bag tagging, priority security, priority boarding
- Premium seating (exit rows, low row numbers, etc).
The only thing missing really are upgrades, which in the grand scheme of things matter little to me. Velocity members get upgrade certificates but very few, and the front cabin is often mostly empty. A different philosophy in terms of the forward cabin, but overall I am going to be very happy staying a Delta FF here and flying a different airline entirely
I am going to enjoy not having to worry about MQD for either status or RDM anymore. We will see how long it lasts before it is 'enhanced'!
Boy am I happily surprised! I get the following benefits on Virgin Australia so far as a Diamond:
- Lounge access (and much better lounges than the Sky Club)
- Free checked bags (I even checked four bags on one leg with no charge! I doubt this is legal but gives an idea of the great service)
- at least 100% MQMs on all the flights so far (150% on one flight). I know some give less but it seems most published fares are 100%
- Skymiles earned on DISTANCE TRAVELED! Lord have mercy
- Diamond mileage bonus of 120% of distance traveled
- Priority check-in, priority bag tagging, priority security, priority boarding
- Premium seating (exit rows, low row numbers, etc).
The only thing missing really are upgrades, which in the grand scheme of things matter little to me. Velocity members get upgrade certificates but very few, and the front cabin is often mostly empty. A different philosophy in terms of the forward cabin, but overall I am going to be very happy staying a Delta FF here and flying a different airline entirely
I am going to enjoy not having to worry about MQD for either status or RDM anymore. We will see how long it lasts before it is 'enhanced'!
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: YYF/YLW
Programs: AA, DL, AS, VA, WS Silver
Posts: 6,235
I recently moved to Australia and so had resigned myself to forgetting about any FF programs. I wasn't going to move to AA and I didn't think Virgin Australia and Delta were that close of a partnership. Certainly most pacific partners aren't treated well anymore in terms of earnings or reciprocal benefits.
Boy am I happily surprised! I get the following benefits on Virgin Australia so far as a Diamond:
- Lounge access (and much better lounges than the Sky Club)
- Free checked bags (I even checked four bags on one leg with no charge! I doubt this is legal but gives an idea of the great service)
- at least 100% MQMs on all the flights so far (150% on one flight). I know some give less but it seems most published fares are 100%
- Skymiles earned on DISTANCE TRAVELED! Lord have mercy
- Diamond mileage bonus of 120% of distance traveled
- Priority check-in, priority bag tagging, priority security, priority boarding
- Premium seating (exit rows, low row numbers, etc).
The only thing missing really are upgrades, which in the grand scheme of things matter little to me. Velocity members get upgrade certificates but very few, and the front cabin is often mostly empty. A different philosophy in terms of the forward cabin, but overall I am going to be very happy staying a Delta FF here and flying a different airline entirely
I am going to enjoy not having to worry about MQD for either status or RDM anymore. We will see how long it lasts before it is 'enhanced'!
Boy am I happily surprised! I get the following benefits on Virgin Australia so far as a Diamond:
- Lounge access (and much better lounges than the Sky Club)
- Free checked bags (I even checked four bags on one leg with no charge! I doubt this is legal but gives an idea of the great service)
- at least 100% MQMs on all the flights so far (150% on one flight). I know some give less but it seems most published fares are 100%
- Skymiles earned on DISTANCE TRAVELED! Lord have mercy
- Diamond mileage bonus of 120% of distance traveled
- Priority check-in, priority bag tagging, priority security, priority boarding
- Premium seating (exit rows, low row numbers, etc).
The only thing missing really are upgrades, which in the grand scheme of things matter little to me. Velocity members get upgrade certificates but very few, and the front cabin is often mostly empty. A different philosophy in terms of the forward cabin, but overall I am going to be very happy staying a Delta FF here and flying a different airline entirely
I am going to enjoy not having to worry about MQD for either status or RDM anymore. We will see how long it lasts before it is 'enhanced'!DL treats VA well because VA is a joint venture/revenue sharing partner. Same reason they treat VS, AF, KL, and AZ well. And same reason they treat KE so poorly: they're trying unsuccessfully to push KE into a joint venture.
Note that Velocity upgrades are even worse than you say: top-tier members only get four one-segment domestic certificates per year, and only valid from flexible economy fares. No other Velocity elites get any complimentary upgrades at all.
My speculation is that MQDs will become required for non-US residents in 2016, since partner-ticketed flights now earn MQDs as a fraction of miles flown. But the MQD/MQM earning ratio is high enough so that it's unlikely to much of a factor even if all flights are on cheap fares; my recollection is that the lowest MQD/MQM ratio on VA is 0.1, compared to the 0.125 you need to minimally maintain status.

