Baggage agreement between MH and KLM/DL?

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May 11, 2015 | 10:11 am
  #1  
In a random act of masochism I am flying on an MH ticket from Seoul to KL to Delhi, and then taking KLM/DL to Ams/Minneapolis on a Delta ticket, all in C.
Any experience of attempting to check a bag through two tickets? Do MH and KLM have a baggage agreement?
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May 11, 2015 | 10:30 am
  #2  
As a general rule, all major legacy full service airlines have interline agreements, but one should still double check this.

However if you have two tickets and/or two PNRs, I wouldn't expect a bag to be checked through between different alliances unless KLM has its own bilateral partnership agreement with KLM. Even then, MH could check the bag only as far as AMS.

Be sure to check on visa and customs rules for India.
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May 11, 2015 | 11:36 am
  #3  
Thanks!
I have often been to India but never used it as a transit point. I believe they will require me to clear immigration before I can collect baggage and then check in again if I cannot get my bad sent the whole way through. I would love to be wrong on this point.
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May 11, 2015 | 1:19 pm
  #4  
Quote: Thanks!
I have often been to India but never used it as a transit point. I believe they will require me to clear immigration before I can collect baggage and then check in again if I cannot get my bad sent the whole way through. I would love to be wrong on this point.
How much time do you have in Delhi? Indian procedures can take a long time, even more if you must switch terminals.
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May 11, 2015 | 1:45 pm
  #5  
In DEL, for international connections/transfers, you do not need to switch terminals. There is mainly only one terminal used for international flights, the swanky T3, which has been awarded, time and again, as one of the best airport terminals.

That said, try to see if you can interline your bag through to your final destination. If you can, then you can stay air-side (not sure if you have to go through immigration, but you have to go through transfer security).

If not:

1. After deplaning, try to walk over to immigration quickly. It is about a 15-20 min walk, depending on where they dock.

2. They have separate lines for F/J pax. However if it is relatively empty, sometimes they call the Y pax over. It may sound DYKWIA, but, if you are pressed for time, get in the F/J line, and assert that you are a premium pax, and have a international connection. People are generally understanding. The premium counters are easy to miss: they are to your left, as soon as you alight from the escalators.

3. Claim your bag, 'exit' the bag claim area, and follow signs for international departures. Pretty easy to find since you will be arriving/departing from the same terminal

4. After checking-in, again, for immigration and security, there are separate queues for F/J pax, which usually move quickly. Keep an eye out for 'em, as they are usually well enforced.

5. KLM uses ITC Green Lounge for it's C pax, next to Plaza Premium and AI lounges, in the second level, above the duty free shops.

Hope that helps!

PS: Look at the India forum/India based airlines. You'll get more info there.
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May 11, 2015 | 1:57 pm
  #6  
Plaza Premium is probably in PP; most/all of their lounges are.
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May 11, 2015 | 2:33 pm
  #7  
Don't forget to print tickets or flight itinerary to show to airport guards.
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May 11, 2015 | 2:37 pm
  #8  
Quote: Plaza Premium is probably in PP; most/all of their lounges are.
Yes they sure are. I have personally used the one in international arrivals, since I had about a 6 hour layover, and I can only check-in at the counter for a domestic flight, 3 hours prior to dep. Decent place to sit and stretch. They have sleeping rooms, however, they are not covered under the PP.

I used the sleeping rooms once, as I had about 7 hour layover, and didn't want to go to an actual hotel (read: navigate through Delhi traffic and catch max. Zzzzzs). Clean and functional. Not a Le Meridien by any stretch, but they have attached bathrooms and shower facilities, which are a plus. For me, it was a well spent USD 80 for 8 hours!
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May 11, 2015 | 2:38 pm
  #9  
Quote: Yes they sure are. I have personally used the one in international arrivals, since I had about a 6 hour layover, and I can only check-in at the counter for a domestic flight, 3 hours prior to dep. Decent place to sit and stretch. They have sleeping rooms, however, they are not covered under the PP.

I used the sleeping rooms once, as I had about 7 hour layover, and didn't want to go to an actual hotel (read: navigate through Delhi traffic and catch max. Zzzzzs). Clean and functional. Not a Le Meridien by any stretch, but they have attached bathrooms and shower facilities, which are a plus. For me, it was a well spent USD 80 for 8 hours!
That price is almost comparable to the perfectly fine transit hotels at SIN for eight hours.
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May 11, 2015 | 2:41 pm
  #10  
Quote: Don't forget to print tickets or flight itinerary to show to airport guards.
^^^ Forgot to mention this! Very very good advice. Whenever transiting through India (any airport), make sure to have printed copies of your entire itinerary and tickets/hotel reservations (if staying in India).
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May 11, 2015 | 2:45 pm
  #11  
Quote: That price is almost comparable to the perfectly fine transit hotels at SIN for eight hours.
Yes, I agree. IGI T3 also has a 4 star Eaton Smart hotel, for transit pax, but I avoid that place at all costs. They literally charge you TWICE, what a 5 star hotel in the city would charge you for a base room . If travelling solo, PP arrivals lounge is a good option to a full-fledged hotel for a long layover at T3.
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May 11, 2015 | 3:20 pm
  #12  
Quote: ^^^ Forgot to mention this! Very very good advice. Whenever transiting through India (any airport), make sure to have printed copies of your entire itinerary and tickets/hotel reservations (if staying in India).
This is a good idea for all trips and all destinations. Then you're not reliant on internet or email access to verify details or prove to someone that you have a reservation and what the details are.
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May 11, 2015 | 8:33 pm
  #13  
For those who forget their printed ticket at IGI, just go to the last two doors on the right. The surly Special Branch guy has an old-fashioned printed passenger list and will allow you in with ID, a signature and a little groveling
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May 13, 2015 | 2:59 pm
  #14  
Quote: This is a good idea for all trips and all destinations. Then you're not reliant on internet or email access to verify details or prove to someone that you have a reservation and what the details are.
Always a good idea. I always have a screenshot and a pdf on my phone.

BUT, in India, you can't get into the terminal without one of these.
And they will sometimes give you a hard time if you go to the airport too early.
And they have redundant (but not really useful) checks
And the list goes on for India.

A fun experience to transit or flying in and out of India.
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Jun 8, 2015 | 5:50 am
  #15  
And the update for those who contributed:
Yes, there is an interline agreement that of no use as my Delhi flight departed after midnight the next day, so they would not check my bag the whole way through. Thus I did clear immigration, collected my bag, reentered the airport and had to wait an hour to be allowed to check in again.
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