![]() |
Originally Posted by DeltaFFATL
(Post 24443076)
Enjoy it while it lasts - it will not.
The benefit to Delta's gross margin/net sales (sales less cost of goods sold) from people meeting the waiver instead of MQD is probably equal to or better than if you meet the status requirement through MQD. Plus you still have to meet the MQM requirement regardless of whether you make MQD or earn the waiver. So in the end, it costs Delta nothing to offer the option of meeting the waiver versus MQD. |
Originally Posted by randidliyo
(Post 24451943)
What is the difference between an Individual SC Membership and and Executive Membership? It's still the overcrowded club, isn't it? Same popcorn?
|
Originally Posted by Ledfish
(Post 24451947)
There is no way the waiver is going away.
The benefit to Delta's gross margin/net sales (sales less cost of goods sold) from people meeting the waiver instead of MQD is probably equal to or better than if you meet the status requirement through MQD. Plus you still have to meet the MQM requirement regardless of whether you make MQD or earn the waiver. So in the end, it costs Delta nothing to offer the option of meeting the waiver versus MQD. |
Originally Posted by LBJ
(Post 24452617)
The margin may be better for Silver's, but I doubt it for any of the other levels. Assuming DL is getting .01/mile from AMEX, the waiver is only generating $250 for DL. Plus it adds a liability of 25K miles (or more) to the books. I believe the waiver is likely due to the total value of the AMEX relationship and has little to do with the amount of income it actually generates from individual Medallions. Given that DL and AMEX just recently renewed their relationship, I'm going to bet that AMEX has contractually embedded the MQD waiver and agree that it is unlikely to go away.
|
Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 24452722)
In making the comparison, you should also ask what profit margin DL earns when a FO spends $2500 on airfares that qualify for MQDs. I very much doubt that it's 10% (consistently) on fares that average ten cents per mile.
|
Originally Posted by LBJ
(Post 24452879)
It's actually $3000 this year. I'm sure DL is probably fine with a Silver with $2000 in MQD and $25K in AMEX spend vs. a Silver with $3000 in MQD. However, I doubt a Diamond with only $5000 in MQD makes up the difference in margin with $25K AMEX spend vs. a Diamond with $15000 in MQD.
|
Originally Posted by LBJ
(Post 24452617)
The margin may be better for Silver's, but I doubt it for any of the other levels. Assuming DL is getting .01/mile from AMEX, the waiver is only generating $250 for DL. Plus it adds a liability of 25K miles (or more) to the books. I believe the waiver is likely due to the total value of the AMEX relationship and has little to do with the amount of income it actually generates from individual Medallions. Given that DL and AMEX just recently renewed their relationship, I'm going to bet that AMEX has contractually embedded the MQD waiver and agree that it is unlikely to go away.
I could see the required waiver amount going up, or being set higher for higher medallion levels, but it makes DL $$$ hand over fist and isn't going anywhere. |
Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 24452722)
In making the comparison, you should also ask what profit margin DL earns when a FO spends $2500 on airfares that qualify for MQDs. I very much doubt that it's 10% (consistently) on fares that average ten cents per mile.
|
Already done with Delta for the year, taking my $$$ to the best fare for the rest of the year. All flights from now till May are on AS and AA. We shall see after that. Already Diamond till end of 2016 with roll over and spend. Not happy with changes already but what can you do. Spend your money where it bests fits your schedule.
|
Originally Posted by iCorpRoadie
(Post 24453028)
Already done with Delta for the year, taking my $$$ to the best fare for the rest of the year. All flights from now till May are on AS and AA. We shall see after that. Already Diamond till end of 2016 with roll over and spend. Not happy with changes already but what can you do. Spend your money where it bests fits your schedule.
There is very little reason for anyone (unless hub captive or similar, and even then - be adventurous vs. be stuck on the same ol' DL!) to keep giving any recurring, consistent business to DL, which only serves to enable DL to keep lying and screwing over its pax over and over again. |
Has there been any info on how a DM can upgrade their SC membership to Executive w/o having to use a choice benefit?
|
Originally Posted by RFDMinnesota
(Post 24454108)
Has there been any info on how a DM can upgrade their SC membership to Executive w/o having to use a choice benefit?
|
Originally Posted by Ledfish
(Post 24451947)
There is no way the waiver is going away.
The benefit to Delta's gross margin/net sales (sales less cost of goods sold) from people meeting the waiver instead of MQD is probably equal to or better than if you meet the status requirement through MQD. Plus you still have to meet the MQM requirement regardless of whether you make MQD or earn the waiver. So in the end, it costs Delta nothing to offer the option of meeting the waiver versus MQD.
Originally Posted by LBJ
(Post 24452617)
The margin may be better for Silver's, but I doubt it for any of the other levels. Assuming DL is getting .01/mile from AMEX, the waiver is only generating $250 for DL. Plus it adds a liability of 25K miles (or more) to the books. I believe the waiver is likely due to the total value of the AMEX relationship and has little to do with the amount of income it actually generates from individual Medallions. Given that DL and AMEX just recently renewed their relationship, I'm going to bet that AMEX has contractually embedded the MQD waiver and agree that it is unlikely to go away.
|
The so-called $145 upgrade option was never an option, just DL false speak. Agents never knew about it or how to process it. Its difficult enough to find somebody to process paying for an individual to exec upgrade.
|
I'll repeat the question: What information do you have access to that has led to this statement? Or is it just pure speculation? (No problem if it is, just curious)
|
| All times are GMT -6. The time now is 2:12 am. |
This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.