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Old Jan 27, 2015, 1:30 pm
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How can I put award segments together properly? Very frustrated!

Want to go PDX to DTW o.w. with Skymiles. I see PDX to SEA or SLC for 12.5k and then SEA or SLC to DTW for 17.5k. Connection times are legal. However I cannot get the same PDX-SLC-DTW flights to even show up as an option. When I try multi stop intinerary, PDX-SEA-DTW comes out to 30k! But should be 17.5, right? I called Delta and didn't get anywhere with them as far as making sense out of this (to me) or getting them to price it manually. Please help!
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Old Jan 27, 2015, 2:21 pm
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DL now uses married segment logic on award ticket pricing. You must search for PDX to DTW and click on "show all flights." [The ones you want might be on the second page.] If it's still available on delta.dumb, also try to search by schedule, which should show everything.
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Old Jan 27, 2015, 2:21 pm
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I just did PDX - DTW as a one-way (picked April 3 randomly) and see a non-stop red-eye for 12,500 and many other options for 12,500 connecting in SEA or LAX.

???
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Old Jan 27, 2015, 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
DL now uses married segment logic on award ticket pricing. You must search for PDX to DTW and click on "show all flights." [The ones you want might be on the second page.] If it's still available on delta.dumb, also try to search by schedule, which should show everything.
"married" There is no marriage equality here: PDX-SLC and SLC-DTW are each available for 17.5k. But when it prices these exact flights as a one way, it's 20k! This is "logic" or a system error?
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Old Jan 27, 2015, 2:41 pm
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Originally Posted by elabut
"married" There is no marriage equality here: PDX-SLC and SLC-DTW are each available for 17.5k. But when it prices these exact flights as a one way, it's 20k! This is "logic" or a system error?
It's the way DL has intentionally written the pricing algorithms into its software: DL rules.
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Old Jan 27, 2015, 2:44 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
It's the way DL has intentionally written the pricing algorithms into its software: DL rules.
Thanks telling me that this is how DL prices flights. However I disagree with "DL rules" and say DL sucks!
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Old Jan 27, 2015, 2:45 pm
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Originally Posted by elabut
"married" There is no marriage equality here: PDX-SLC and SLC-DTW are each available for 17.5k. But when it prices these exact flights as a one way, it's 20k! This is "logic" or a system error?
Intentional. There is no way around this.
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Old Jan 27, 2015, 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by javabytes
Intentional. There is no way around this.
PLEASE tell me that only DL does this. I hope not AA, AS, or UA (or Southwest)
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Old Jan 27, 2015, 4:22 pm
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Originally Posted by elabut
PLEASE tell me that only DL does this. I hope not AA, AS, or UA (or Southwest)
AA does it. Not sure about the others.
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Old Jan 27, 2015, 5:24 pm
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This is a good place to start for current award rules and search engine capability. A couple of high-count threads on the topic posted as stickies are now obsolete.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...ts-2015-a.html
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Old Jan 27, 2015, 6:51 pm
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Originally Posted by elabut
PLEASE tell me that only DL does this. I hope not AA, AS, or UA (or Southwest)
It is the same way they price revenue flights. PDX-DTW is a different market than PDX-SLC or SLC-DTW thus they price it separately.
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Old Jan 31, 2015, 5:51 pm
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Another example of married segment logic at work:
JFK-SFO is 25k, while JFK-SFO-LAX-OAK (!) is 20k:

http://imgur.com/JRf2kIm (large image)
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Old Jan 31, 2015, 8:30 pm
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Originally Posted by bpe
Another example of married segment logic at work:
JFK-SFO is 25k, while JFK-SFO-LAX-OAK (!) is 20k:

http://imgur.com/JRf2kIm (large image)
SFO-LAX-OAK is a long way around to go ten or fifteen miles across the Bay.
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Old Jan 31, 2015, 8:38 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
SFO-LAX-OAK is a long way around to go ten or fifteen miles across the Bay.
But depending on traffic it might be faster
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