More E class on the way?
Oct 15, 2014, 1:43 pm
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More E class on the way?
Just checked ATL-AUS/SAT to see if DL is matching the current WN sale. Sure enough they are ... with E fares. V is $50+ more r/t. Anyone finding E on other non-leisure routes?
Oct 15, 2014, 1:46 pm
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Oct 15, 2014, 2:24 pm
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Why on earth would someone choose Delta's "E" fare on this? It's an objectively inferior product in virtually every way to Southwest's offering, but for the exact same price:
Then, for flights after 2/1, no upgrades and no same-day changes either.
I guess you earn miles . . .
- 100% unchangeable (even with fee) vs. 100% changeable, for only a fare difference
- No included baggage vs. 2 included bags each way
- No advanced seat assignment, with only the dregs left after everyone else picks (vs SWA's no-advanced-seat-assignment for everyone, putting all on even footing)
Then, for flights after 2/1, no upgrades and no same-day changes either.
I guess you earn miles . . .
Oct 15, 2014, 2:29 pm
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Perhaps it's the markets I fly to/from, but I've never even seen an E fare offered.
To be fair, I usually only book a week or so in advance.
To be fair, I usually only book a week or so in advance.
Oct 15, 2014, 2:54 pm
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The initial markets are listed at the URL below. DTW-ERI is a bit of an oddball (no LCC/ULCC's and probably not much O&D).
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-economy-.html
I'm also seeing them on DTW-DFW and DTW-IAH (Spirit routes) even though they are not listed on the webpage.
E fares generally require a 3 week advance purchase and a Saturday night stay for a number of markets. Also only available on non-stop routings.
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-economy-.html
I'm also seeing them on DTW-DFW and DTW-IAH (Spirit routes) even though they are not listed on the webpage.
E fares generally require a 3 week advance purchase and a Saturday night stay for a number of markets. Also only available on non-stop routings.
Last edited by xliioper; Oct 15, 2014 at 3:02 pm
Oct 15, 2014, 3:14 pm
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Interesting find by the OP.
Lots of city pairs don't have published fares all the way through the most-deeply discounted fare buckets. One might think they could keep one bucket above E (V or X) for time-limited promo/match fares.
Lots of city pairs don't have published fares all the way through the most-deeply discounted fare buckets. One might think they could keep one bucket above E (V or X) for time-limited promo/match fares.
Oct 15, 2014, 3:14 pm
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Oct 15, 2014, 3:15 pm
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Why on earth would someone choose Delta's "E" fare on this? It's an objectively inferior product in virtually every way to Southwest's offering, but for the exact same price:
Then, for flights after 2/1, no upgrades and no same-day changes either.
I guess you earn miles . . .
- 100% unchangeable (even with fee) vs. 100% changeable, for only a fare difference
- No included baggage vs. 2 included bags each way
- No advanced seat assignment, with only the dregs left after everyone else picks (vs SWA's no-advanced-seat-assignment for everyone, putting all on even footing)
Then, for flights after 2/1, no upgrades and no same-day changes either.
I guess you earn miles . . .
Oct 15, 2014, 5:11 pm
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Why on earth would someone choose Delta's "E" fare on this? It's an objectively inferior product in virtually every way to Southwest's offering, but for the exact same price:
Then, for flights after 2/1, no upgrades and no same-day changes either.
- 100% unchangeable (even with fee) vs. 100% changeable, for only a fare difference
- No included baggage vs. 2 included bags each way
- No advanced seat assignment, with only the dregs left after everyone else picks (vs SWA's no-advanced-seat-assignment for everyone, putting all on even footing)
Then, for flights after 2/1, no upgrades and no same-day changes either.
Oct 15, 2014, 5:18 pm
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Why on earth would someone choose Delta's "E" fare on this? It's an objectively inferior product in virtually every way to Southwest's offering, but for the exact same price:
Then, for flights after 2/1, no upgrades and no same-day changes either.
I guess you earn miles . . .
- 100% unchangeable (even with fee) vs. 100% changeable, for only a fare difference
- No included baggage vs. 2 included bags each way
- No advanced seat assignment, with only the dregs left after everyone else picks (vs SWA's no-advanced-seat-assignment for everyone, putting all on even footing)
Then, for flights after 2/1, no upgrades and no same-day changes either.
I guess you earn miles . . .
Oct 15, 2014, 6:55 pm
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E flights should be avoided by any DL frequent flyer. You can't book into Economy Comfort and on the one occasion I made the mistake of buying this fare, my upgrade was not processed correctly. Silvers were sitting in F while I sat in a middle seat in Y.
Oct 15, 2014, 7:02 pm
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I thought E fares only got upgraded after all others had been upgraded. Not 100% sure on it though, but I thought there was some strange rule in regards to upgrades.
Oct 15, 2014, 7:27 pm
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For a frequent flyer, these are horrible to purchase. But for someone who is 1, on a budget and just wants the cheapest flight, or 2, doesn't care. It will appeal to them. DL isn't necessarily going after the high roller here, but that causal flier that would normally choose WN, or whatever the cheapest that shows up in Travelocity. They're not going to care about changes, and they're already going to pay for bags, the seat assignments might be an issue for them though.
Oct 15, 2014, 7:36 pm
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+1 - People get all hot and bothered that these fares exist. But, the bottom line is that there is a market for these seats, nobody is twisting anybody's arm to buy them and it's highly unlikely that in the low-roller market, people are calculating in the risk of changes and the like.