Very Frustrated with Delta...
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Wow, Delta really requires a 60-minute schedule change to let you change flights? I just saw a schedule change of 40 minutes yesterday on a United itinerary and I called and was able to change to other flights because of the difference of 40 minutes...I don't like the "one time" change mentioned above either...if the schedule changes again, I would expect to be able to change it as often as I need to if an airline keeps making changes to my itinerary...
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ummm, not to sound like a jerk (though I probably am) but your talking about a little more then an hour. I have small kids and I would hardly consider this that big of a deal. So, you essentially have to wake up an hour earlier. Maybe bedtime can be an hour earlier so it doesnt necessarily affect your kids to much.
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Here's another idea you may want. You say you stay at Marriott's often - use points and stay at the airport Marriott / Courtyard / FFI, etc.
This way the kids get an "extra" day vacation, maybe even some pool time depending on the hotel the night before, up early and use the shuttle bus to get to the airport instead of worrying about driving, etc.
The other option is to switch as others have said to a connecting flight - especially if you can get MSP as it may break up the day, allow for better bathroom rooms, etc.
Just some thoughts.
This way the kids get an "extra" day vacation, maybe even some pool time depending on the hotel the night before, up early and use the shuttle bus to get to the airport instead of worrying about driving, etc.
The other option is to switch as others have said to a connecting flight - especially if you can get MSP as it may break up the day, allow for better bathroom rooms, etc.
Just some thoughts.
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Here's another idea you may want. You say you stay at Marriott's often - use points and stay at the airport Marriott / Courtyard / FFI, etc.
This way the kids get an "extra" day vacation, maybe even some pool time depending on the hotel the night before, up early and use the shuttle bus to get to the airport instead of worrying about driving, etc.
The other option is to switch as others have said to a connecting flight - especially if you can get MSP as it may break up the day, allow for better bathroom rooms, etc.
Just some thoughts.
This way the kids get an "extra" day vacation, maybe even some pool time depending on the hotel the night before, up early and use the shuttle bus to get to the airport instead of worrying about driving, etc.
The other option is to switch as others have said to a connecting flight - especially if you can get MSP as it may break up the day, allow for better bathroom rooms, etc.
Just some thoughts.
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Connections mean "potential problems."
Point in fact, my daughter (12) has an October break, and the AMS-BOS-AMS fares were very high; so flying AMS-LAX-BOS-AMS was only a little bit more. This is only doable (i.e. 2 days at Universal Hollywood) because AMS-LAX is a non-stop. Breaking it up into a connection, sheesh, it just makes it a super duper long day of travel, even if it all goes perfect.
I tend to find, it's even more pronounced if traveling from the midwest to west coast. Why take a short CMH-LAX (nonstop) flight and convert it into a long travel day with a connection? Just doesn't make sense to me, especially, if traveling with kids. (and, any IrrOps, and you are totally screwed!)
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No disrespect, but I never understand this "break up the day argument."
Connections mean "potential problems."
Point in fact, my daughter (12) has an October break, and the AMS-BOS-AMS fares were very high; so flying AMS-LAX-BOS-AMS was only a little bit more. This is only doable (i.e. 2 days at Universal Hollywood) because AMS-LAX is a non-stop. Breaking it up into a connection, sheesh, it just makes it a super duper long day of travel, even if it all goes perfect.
I tend to find, it's even more pronounced if traveling from the midwest to west coast. Why take a short CMH-LAX (nonstop) flight and convert it into a long travel day with a connection? Just doesn't make sense to me, especially, if traveling with kids. (and, any IrrOps, and you are totally screwed!)
Connections mean "potential problems."
Point in fact, my daughter (12) has an October break, and the AMS-BOS-AMS fares were very high; so flying AMS-LAX-BOS-AMS was only a little bit more. This is only doable (i.e. 2 days at Universal Hollywood) because AMS-LAX is a non-stop. Breaking it up into a connection, sheesh, it just makes it a super duper long day of travel, even if it all goes perfect.
I tend to find, it's even more pronounced if traveling from the midwest to west coast. Why take a short CMH-LAX (nonstop) flight and convert it into a long travel day with a connection? Just doesn't make sense to me, especially, if traveling with kids. (and, any IrrOps, and you are totally screwed!)
Flight option 1: leave at 6:19am which means waking up at ...
Flight option 2: leave at 6:20pm making to hotel destination after 9pm (which when you convert to kids' actual biological clock is pretty late)
Originally, the OP had a departing flight >7am which was ok for them. But given the rescheduling, an option to at least consider is a connecting flight.
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You are overlooking two points raised by the OP:
Flight option 1: leave at 6:19am which means waking up at ...
Flight option 2: leave at 6:20pm making to hotel destination after 9pm (which when you convert to kids' actual biological clock is pretty late)
Originally, the OP had a departing flight >7am which was ok for them. But given the rescheduling, an option to at least consider is a connecting flight.
Flight option 1: leave at 6:19am which means waking up at ...
Flight option 2: leave at 6:20pm making to hotel destination after 9pm (which when you convert to kids' actual biological clock is pretty late)
Originally, the OP had a departing flight >7am which was ok for them. But given the rescheduling, an option to at least consider is a connecting flight.
A potential issue with a connection and keeping your kids occupied for 3,4,5++ hours at a hub is much worse than some "minor" biological clock issues. Always best to take the safest (nonstop) route. Everything else, is dancing with the devil. I'm an "old man" of 44, with a 20/17/12 year old. I've been doing this for years and years. Believe me, always always a nonstop when that is an option and it's a family trip.
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In my experience, the kids adjust fine; it's the parents that are the issue.
A potential issue with a connection and keeping your kids occupied for 3,4,5++ hours at a hub is much worse than some "minor" biological clock issues. Always best to take the safest (nonstop) route. Everything else, is dancing with the devil. I'm an "old man" of 44, with a 20/17/12 year old. I've been doing this for years and years. Believe me, always always a nonstop when that is an option and it's a family trip.
A potential issue with a connection and keeping your kids occupied for 3,4,5++ hours at a hub is much worse than some "minor" biological clock issues. Always best to take the safest (nonstop) route. Everything else, is dancing with the devil. I'm an "old man" of 44, with a 20/17/12 year old. I've been doing this for years and years. Believe me, always always a nonstop when that is an option and it's a family trip.
Play the alarm clock trick...
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Wow, Delta really requires a 60-minute schedule change to let you change flights? I just saw a schedule change of 40 minutes yesterday on a United itinerary and I called and was able to change to other flights because of the difference of 40 minutes...I don't like the "one time" change mentioned above either...if the schedule changes again, I would expect to be able to change it as often as I need to if an airline keeps making changes to my itinerary...
Depending on the circumstances and your status, the sixty minute threshold for free changes isn't a hard and fast rule on DL. I doubt that officially UA permits free changes for all passengers because of forty minute schedule changes.
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while I suspect that OP agrees with you, having initially booked a nonstop for the family of 5, I think the underlying reason for this thread is "just because they still offer a nonstop doesn't mean it's a practical option for this trip" ... what worked for you when your kids were single-digit-years of age may not work for this family, and OP is (a) venting at DL as well as (b) seeking advice from the community as to practical options
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Wow, Delta really requires a 60-minute schedule change to let you change flights? I just saw a schedule change of 40 minutes yesterday on a United itinerary and I called and was able to change to other flights because of the difference of 40 minutes...I don't like the "one time" change mentioned above either...if the schedule changes again, I would expect to be able to change it as often as I need to if an airline keeps making changes to my itinerary...
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You really have my sympathy. I've been there. I know that some don't find an hour change to be that big of a deal, but I've always put too much effort in finding flights that would be the least disruptive to the kids' schedule (and my kids have a decade on yours!) It has been no small feat since CVG was gutted. We've even decided against some trips when we found nothing but a whole lot of ugly when shopping potential flights.
There is another a nonstop leaving from CVG @ 4:00pm. Don't know at what fare class you booked, but the CVG and CMH fare are within a few bucks right now. The right CSR might be able to make that work for you.
Either way, you've got me thinking about how nice it would be to escape Ohio for some LA sun when December rolls around.
Good luck!
There is another a nonstop leaving from CVG @ 4:00pm. Don't know at what fare class you booked, but the CVG and CMH fare are within a few bucks right now. The right CSR might be able to make that work for you.
Either way, you've got me thinking about how nice it would be to escape Ohio for some LA sun when December rolls around.
Good luck!
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