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Old Jun 14, 2014 | 9:11 am
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Originally Posted by HongKonger
Soon I'll fly the 380 for the first time upstairs in KE J with their lie-flats. I'm curious to see if it's comparable, though 2-2-2 in J isn't all that promising.
From my walk thru of the J cabin...







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Old Jun 14, 2014 | 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by SFO777
From my walk thru of the J cabin...
Looks like the AF layout, but with better use of the windowless space in front.

I don't mind the 2-2-2 layout... if by yourself, take the center seats or bulkheads. If with someone, take a window/aisle pair.

(As much as I like the direct aisle access from every seat when by myself, when with someone almost all of the DL layouts are bad, with the possible exception of the 75S/763/764.)
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Old Jun 14, 2014 | 11:02 am
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Originally Posted by SFO777
From my walk thru of the J cabin...
Thanks! Now I'm looking forward to it!
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Old Jun 14, 2014 | 11:08 am
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Old Jun 14, 2014 | 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by mmichael453
Has Boeing thrown in the towel on the 748 for passenger service yet?
Officially no. But very poor sales. If that continues for a couple of more years Boeing will have run out of orders to assemble. Will get the Air force 1 contract for the planes in all probability.
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Old Jun 14, 2014 | 11:55 am
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I don't know how long we will have 744s, but I am going out of my way to ride in my favorite seat of the entire fleet which I will have this week. I am now deciding between two destinations for 2015 based on whether I can get a 744.
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Old Jun 14, 2014 | 3:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Xeno
I don't know how long we will have 744s, but I am going out of my way to ride in my favorite seat of the entire fleet which I will have this week. I am now deciding between two destinations for 2015 based on whether I can get a 744.
you piqued my curiosity....what two destinations?
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Old Jun 14, 2014 | 3:59 pm
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Originally Posted by DL2SXM
you piqued my curiosity....what two destinations?
I had 6 rides on the 744 in 2013 but those were all to Asia. In March of this year I rode the 744 to TLV. I then exchanged my LHR ticket to fly to TLV next week.

I would have flown back to TLV in May 2015 if DL would not have dropped the 744 so unless it is brought back into the schedule then I will look at something like DTW-PVG. I already HKG confirmed for May 2015 and I will try to route ATL-NRT to get a nice long ride in the 744.
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Old Jun 14, 2014 | 4:59 pm
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The Delta 744 is a great ride. I flew them twice in April of this year. BE is the way to go if you can swing it. IMHO, the 16 will survive until 2018-2020 and then they will be gonzo. I really hope Delta buys the 777-300 ER to replace them. I'd bet my next paycheck they will get a sweetheart deal from Boeing for 20 or so frames.
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Old Jun 14, 2014 | 5:07 pm
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I think most of those who are bemoaning the eventual loss of the 744 are those who fly BE UD. I stick with 73A while others in the major thread on the 744 have their own favorites:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...operation.html
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Originally Posted by Xeno
I think most of those who are bemoaning the eventual loss of the 744 are those who fly BE UD.
Yeah... BE UD is definitely fantastic. Y, even post refurb, not so much. I'd fly another carrier in W over a DL 744 in EC.
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Old Jun 14, 2014 | 10:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Xeno
I think most of those who are bemoaning the eventual loss of the 744 are those who fly BE UD.
Mmm ... yeah pretty much. My one time in 747 Y was on a LH plane in the days of 9-across and probably 34" pitch, which was pretty sweet for a Y seat. After that it was J all the way mostly on NW, but also QF, NZ, CX, TG, BA, KL, and the late, lamented AN, upper deck whenever I could.

I'll be sorry to see the big birds go, but I also recognize that they're pretty inefficient compared with more modern designs, and will eventually go the way of my other upfront favorites the 707, 727, and DC-10.
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Old Jun 14, 2014 | 11:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Xeno
I think most of those who are bemoaning the eventual loss of the 744 are those who fly BE UD. I stick with 73A while others in the major thread on the 744 have their own favorites:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...operation.html
80K is the seat for me. No one opposite you plus your the first one down the stairs. Sometimes the FAs don't hold coach from deplaning.

I always try for at least two 747 flights a year. Just did DTW to ICN. Was going to book DTW to NGO but got a great deal on SEA - HKG with the A330. Have yet to experience the new flat bed on the 330 so I booked that.

xeno, if u do HKG next year through NRT I believe its a connection to a 767.
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Old Jun 14, 2014 | 11:44 pm
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Originally Posted by SFO777
From my walk thru of the J cabin...



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Looks nice but also looks cramped.
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Old Jun 15, 2014 | 12:37 am
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Originally Posted by DL2SXM
Have yet to experience the new flat bed on the 330 so I booked that.
I fly the A330 quite often (AMS-BOS-AMS); more often the -300. Really enjoy this aircraft. On both planes, love 2J; since it is far from the galleys and very quiet. But, the only caveat is since they serve (back to front); you are the last to be served (doesn't bother me that much, though the BOS-AMS red-eye flights are quite short, so that might be an issue for some).

7J (and the entire row 7, first row of the mini-cabin) on the -200 has a very nice "extra shelf" that is quite convenient; as is the "mini-cabin." People seem to stay away from the "mini-cabin," so if it's not a totally full flight, is can also be a bit more empty (most recent flight AMS-BOS was half-full in the "mini-cabin," but entirely full in the larger forward BusinessElite cabin).

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