Feb 26, 2014, 5:15 am
Last edit by: mooper
Universal link to SkyMiles 2015 changes
2015 SkyMiles Program
PDF Version
Everything begins January 1, 2015 on Delta marketed flights with DL code and 006 tickets.
Medallion Qualification - Same as 2014.
MQM or MQS stays at the qualification criteria for all members except US based where MQD is added.
Rollover MQMs to stay.
Current benefits to stay...? Remains unclear until the benefits are published for the following year.
Miles don't expire
Earn Award Miles - Drastically changed.
Non Medallion - 5 Miles/$1
Silver - 7 Miles/$1
Gold - 8 Miles/$1
Platinum - 9 Miles/$1
Diamond - 11 Miles/$1
Credit Card miles earning remains unchanged. Depending on the card you hold you may earn up to 2 miles/$1. Until the new award rates are out it remains as mystery on whether using a Delta credit card is better or worse.
Partner flights will earn on a percentage of distance flown and fare class paid...? Remains unclear until more information is out.
All fares paid by other currency will be converted to USD based on IATA 5-day currency exchange rate at the time of ticketing. Then apply the same rate listed above.
Existing miles to stay with no changes.
Miles + Cash are AWARD tickets. Medallions can get free upgrades.
Redeem Miles - New 2015 Award Chart
No blackout dates on Delta flights...? No blackout dates on DL-operated flights as per the FAQ.
More award seat availability...?
Five award levels
Miles + Cash offer available
One-way awards at half of round trip rate
New award calendar
2015 SkyMiles Program
PDF Version
Everything begins January 1, 2015 on Delta marketed flights with DL code and 006 tickets.
Medallion Qualification - Same as 2014.
MQM or MQS stays at the qualification criteria for all members except US based where MQD is added.
Rollover MQMs to stay.
Current benefits to stay...? Remains unclear until the benefits are published for the following year.
Miles don't expire
Earn Award Miles - Drastically changed.
Non Medallion - 5 Miles/$1
Silver - 7 Miles/$1
Gold - 8 Miles/$1
Platinum - 9 Miles/$1
Diamond - 11 Miles/$1
Credit Card miles earning remains unchanged. Depending on the card you hold you may earn up to 2 miles/$1. Until the new award rates are out it remains as mystery on whether using a Delta credit card is better or worse.
Partner flights will earn on a percentage of distance flown and fare class paid...? Remains unclear until more information is out.
All fares paid by other currency will be converted to USD based on IATA 5-day currency exchange rate at the time of ticketing. Then apply the same rate listed above.
Existing miles to stay with no changes.
Miles + Cash are AWARD tickets. Medallions can get free upgrades.
Redeem Miles - New 2015 Award Chart
No blackout dates on Delta flights...? No blackout dates on DL-operated flights as per the FAQ.
More award seat availability...?
Five award levels
Miles + Cash offer available
One-way awards at half of round trip rate
New award calendar
Delta introduces new revenue program for earn, one-way awards
Mar 6, 2014, 2:37 pm
#916
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: HNL
Programs: DL PM/1MM, BW DE (lifetime), HH DE, Marriott PE (lifetime), National Emerald Executive
Posts: 7,205
And you say that we know the pricing, so then how much will it cost in 2015 for a flight, say, Japan to Korea? Or China to EU? Or EU to Africa? Or... ?
None of this information is released, nothing is published and available, other than a small percentage (under 7%) of the award travel pricing, without the routing rules (which is very important, as without the rules the small fraction of award pricing showed now is not very meaningful) or even it being disclosed under which level do non-DL/ST flights fall.
Mar 6, 2014, 7:29 pm
#917
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: LAX
Programs: DL Platinum, Hilton Diamond VIP, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 230
We do? Where are you reading the 2015 award travel fare/routing rules? So are stopovers still alowed on round trips? What about on open jaws (two one ways)? What about on one ways?
And you say that we know the pricing, so then how much will it cost in 2015 for a flight, say, Japan to Korea? Or China to EU? Or EU to Africa? Or... ?
None of this information is released, nothing is published and available, other than a small percentage (under 7%) of the award travel pricing, without the routing rules (which is very important, as without the rules the small fraction of award pricing showed now is not very meaningful) or even it being disclosed under which level do non-DL/ST flights fall.
And you say that we know the pricing, so then how much will it cost in 2015 for a flight, say, Japan to Korea? Or China to EU? Or EU to Africa? Or... ?
None of this information is released, nothing is published and available, other than a small percentage (under 7%) of the award travel pricing, without the routing rules (which is very important, as without the rules the small fraction of award pricing showed now is not very meaningful) or even it being disclosed under which level do non-DL/ST flights fall.
Mar 6, 2014, 8:35 pm
#918
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: ATL
Programs: Delta PlM, 1M
Posts: 6,363
This thread goes on and on, but all it boils down to is that Delta took the decision to give 20+ CPM flyers more and <20 CPM flyers less*. You'll be happy or sad depending upon which side of the price your patterns fall. It's not an issue or morality nor ethics, and anyone who doesn't like it is free to graze in pastures they deem greener. ...
I am a loser, if that is enough to change any of my flying patterns, so be it.
Mar 6, 2014, 10:09 pm
#919
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: LBB
Programs: UA 1K 1MM ★G | Marriott LTT | Hilton ♦ | Hertz PC | Global Entry TSA Pre ✓
Posts: 2,820
If I'm reading correctly, there are 42 price decreases and just 2 price increases (both modest, to the top "peak" tier only, and domestic only). They'e promised to increase availability at the lower levels, so even if they don't follow through and availability stays the same, this is an overall *extremely* good change.
Looks like the fears expressed earlier in this thread weren't warranted, though I'm sure many will figure out a way to spin this very positive news into a negative.
Looks like the fears expressed earlier in this thread weren't warranted, though I'm sure many will figure out a way to spin this very positive news into a negative.
Well, this is a happy day. I would say that either UA comes on board with similar changes, or I may consider a status match and move to DL next year.... plenty of business travel = $$$ = more miles in this program than I will get with current UA Mileage Plus program. Gonna be interesting to see if the rest of the pack follows suit.
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2014: UA CPU 8/13 || UA PQM 18,101 || UA PQS 21.5 || UA PQD $3,334 || UA CPM $0.22 DEN|SLC|CLE|GRR|MCI|ORD|BTV|EWR|MSP|STL|IAD
Mar 9, 2014, 4:07 pm
#921
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bye Delta
Programs: AA EXP, HH Diamond, IHG Plat, Hyatt Plat, Marriott Plat, Nat'l Exec Elite, Avis Presidents Club
Posts: 16,273
Mar 9, 2014, 7:08 pm
#922
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Anywhere I need to be.
Programs: OW Emerald, *A Gold, NEXUS, GE, ABTC/APEC, South Korea SES, eIACS, PP, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 16,046
Well, this is a happy day. I would say that either UA comes on board with similar changes, or I may consider a status match and move to DL next year.... plenty of business travel = $$$ = more miles in this program than I will get with current UA Mileage Plus program. Gonna be interesting to see if the rest of the pack follows suit.
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2014: UA CPU 8/13 || UA PQM 18,101 || UA PQS 21.5 || UA PQD $3,334 || UA CPM $0.22 DEN|SLC|CLE|GRR|MCI|ORD|BTV|EWR|MSP|STL|IAD
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2014: UA CPU 8/13 || UA PQM 18,101 || UA PQS 21.5 || UA PQD $3,334 || UA CPM $0.22 DEN|SLC|CLE|GRR|MCI|ORD|BTV|EWR|MSP|STL|IAD
Business travel does not necessarily correlate to expensive fares-I have a fare for 2050 RMB before tax (it priced as 3500 or so including YQ.) for a TPAC flt and my TPAC is already confirmed outbound with eVIP.
Mar 10, 2014, 6:51 pm
#923
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Programs: UA PP, AA, DL, BA, CX, SPG, HHonors
Posts: 2,002
How the heck AA makes money in $570 a.i. Fare ?? Is this one way ?
Mar 10, 2014, 6:57 pm
#924
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Apr 28, 2014, 1:49 pm
#925
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Programs: AA 1M
Posts: 31,475
As I suspected, DL might change the earn ratio for it's flights when crediting to partners. Looking at the AS page, there is a note that the current earn rates are only till 12/31/14:
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-airlines.html
I bet they will reduce it at partners, so that cheap ticket, long distance flyers will not fly DL and credit elsewhere.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-airlines.html
I bet they will reduce it at partners, so that cheap ticket, long distance flyers will not fly DL and credit elsewhere.
Apr 28, 2014, 2:29 pm
#926
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: ATL
Programs: DL Scattered Smothered Covered Medallion, Some hotel & car stuff, Kroger Plus Card
Posts: 10,745
As I suspected, DL might change the earn ratio for it's flights when crediting to partners. Looking at the AS page, there is a note that the current earn rates are only till 12/31/14:
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-airlines.html
I bet they will reduce it at partners, so that cheap ticket, long distance flyers will not fly DL and credit elsewhere.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-airlines.html
I bet they will reduce it at partners, so that cheap ticket, long distance flyers will not fly DL and credit elsewhere.
I don't know the behind the scenes stuff, it just seems to me that the airline that owns the program has greater (or complete?) control over how it will distribute miles/points within their program.
Apr 28, 2014, 2:32 pm
#927
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Location: DFW
Programs: AA 1M
Posts: 31,475
Wouldn't the earn rate for partners be more at the discretion of partners, and not DL?
I don't know the behind the scenes stuff, it just seems to me that the airline that owns the program has greater (or complete?) control over how it will distribute miles/points within their program.
I don't know the behind the scenes stuff, it just seems to me that the airline that owns the program has greater (or complete?) control over how it will distribute miles/points within their program.
Apr 28, 2014, 2:40 pm
#928
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).Anyway - I suppose we'll wait and see.
Apr 28, 2014, 2:53 pm
#929
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Location: DFW
Programs: AA 1M
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Looks like a win-win.