New BE TransCon Product Revealed
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Wow... Maybe it's just the pictures, but those seats look narrow. Especially the foot wells.
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Since they can't make the plane wider they have to fit two seats + footwell into the same space as the two current seats (maybe they can steal a little space from the aisle) so it wouldn't surprise me that things are narrow. Since, for the most part, the flights are shorter than TATL it's probably OK. Since the others on the TCON route are going flat bed DL pretty much has to, even if it makes for narrower seats.
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Thumbs up for this, although I tend to agree the foot wells appear to be very tight. Hopefully this is just bad rendering. And I actually like this better than JetBlue's; to me, sliding doors and wall-like panels only work well on twin-aisle aircraft. Otherwise, everything just looks crammed. But that's just my opinion ;-)
When all is said and done (shall we say late 2014?), the differences in the 4 airlines' transcon hard products may just be within 5-10% of each other. How will Delta further differentiate themselves? Chiarello? Least-disgruntled employees?
When all is said and done (shall we say late 2014?), the differences in the 4 airlines' transcon hard products may just be within 5-10% of each other. How will Delta further differentiate themselves? Chiarello? Least-disgruntled employees?
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Thumbs up for this, although I tend to agree the foot wells appear to be very tight. Hopefully this is just bad rendering. And I actually like this better than JetBlue's; to me, sliding doors and wall-like panels only work well on twin-aisle aircraft. Otherwise, everything just looks crammed. But that's just my opinion ;-)
When all is said and done (shall we say late 2014?), the differences in the 4 airlines' transcon hard products may just be within 5-10% of each other. How will Delta further differentiate themselves? Chiarello? Least-disgruntled employees?
When all is said and done (shall we say late 2014?), the differences in the 4 airlines' transcon hard products may just be within 5-10% of each other. How will Delta further differentiate themselves? Chiarello? Least-disgruntled employees?
But I agree that between AA, DL, and UA all the J hard products will be very similar maybe with the exception of the color and material used on the seats. B6 will have the only different J hard product. One advantage AA and B6 will have is that they will be flying brand new A321s with a very slightly wider cabin.
It remains to be seen what the soft product will look like on B6 but otherwise this will have to be a major tool in differentiating each product. AA will be the only one offering a true F product and VX (if they're even still around) will be left well behind the pack. In terms of employees, I would guess UA would be at the bottom, DL and AA will be similar (hit and miss), and B6 will likely have the most friendly and interactive crews.
Finally, the ground experience is where DL will be simply embarrassing and far behind the rest (assuming things stay the same as they are now).
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Not a big fan of having to climb over somebody to get aisle access. Would much rather have seen a herringbone design similar to the triple-7 or something done to give access for window seats.
So many of these seats get sold (instead of giving away on free upgrades) that I wouldn't want to pay and get window'd in.
So many of these seats get sold (instead of giving away on free upgrades) that I wouldn't want to pay and get window'd in.
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I'm actually sad to see the current TCON BE go. I really liked the era of cradle seats in F. They are the most comfortable for actual sitting and great for sleeping. With all these new lie flat seats, they sound great on paper, but they are neither good for sitting nor can you get a great sleep on them
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Since they can't make the plane wider they have to fit two seats + footwell into the same space as the two current seats (maybe they can steal a little space from the aisle) so it wouldn't surprise me that things are narrow. Since, for the most part, the flights are shorter than TATL it's probably OK. Since the others on the TCON route are going flat bed DL pretty much has to, even if it makes for narrower seats.
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I'm a little curious why they couldn't do something like the 767s with staggered seating. Imagine a 767 without the center section, only the A & D seats...
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Delta could have, but then there would have been room for only eight seats, not sixteen. I don't think anyone but AA offers universal direct-aisle access in a narrow body aircraft. Even then, AA's three-class A321s offer it only in first class, not business class.
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It won't happen, but it would be nice if DL would run this on DCA-LAX.
AS and AA currently have the two LAX perimeter exemptions.
I would think DCA-LAX would be a good premium market. Maybe AA will eventually add it to their LAX flight.
AS and AA currently have the two LAX perimeter exemptions.
I would think DCA-LAX would be a good premium market. Maybe AA will eventually add it to their LAX flight.