Dawgfan6291

whats your point? The 73Ws do routes to SA
and I know you have heard of NK and B6, they fly to SA and don't have any F.

Dawgfan6291

N301NB (319) came to NW in 05/1999.
N371NB (319) came to NW in 12/2003

N309US (320) came to NW in 05/1990
N378NW (320) came to NW in 12/2003

Note, 3209-3249 are the old 320s looking like they will be retried, 3250-3278 came between 1998 and 2003 and should be staying around.

rumor mill also seems to think the rest of the 37s will get AVOD. Sounds like it is still off the table for the 90s sadly.

Every1 Get A Life

FYI- according to a pilot friend of mine at Delta, there is an internal pilot communication out that says the A320 will be increased to 16F after the modification.

While the communication didn't state the First Class plans for the A319, he was able to confirm that it will remain at 12F and not go down to 8F like AA and UA.

javabytes

^

MSPeconomist

However, domestic upgrades have traditionally been just about the only area in which DL's FF program compares well to the competition.

dEagleS

Just wondering, but why do the pilots care ahead of time whether it will be 12F or 16F? (I mean, why would this be only a pilot communication?)

Dawgfan6291

They aren't. More details have been discussed with other employee groups.

Generally though when Delta asks its employees NOT to post some things people do it.
Don't worry, Delta will be letting everyone know exactly what is going on in the future for the fleet. The 75E mods are just the start.

dEagleS

I will take your comment as a good thing!

jdrtravel

And let me guess...somehow they have found a way to increase the amount of Y seats while also adding F seats? Magic!

Delta 764

With slimline Y seats such as the Weber/Zodiac 5751 or B/E Aerospace Pinnacle, and the newer Weber/Zodiac 6810 F seats found on the MD-88 and MD-90 (and soon the 739ER), it is quite possible DL can increase the amount of seats on the aircraft in both cabins.

mbaker0936

I wonder if the goal with the A320 is to match capacity to the 737-800 16F and 144Y. 4F and 6Y seats I guess can justify the added expense of another FA.

Delta 764

As well as the MD-90, which also is configured 16F and 144Y.

jdrtravel

that would allow for huge flexibility when an equipment change is needed.

Crazyhotelguy

On a newly configured A320 now, yes 16 F, same pull down type bins as the 739. It is Def updated with new lighting and the new DL feel.

It's ok in F. Did not get to look too much into Y.

There are power outlets like on the 739 in F.

Upon further review, the bins are pretty spacious, allowing bags in on their side. Lots of vertical space...

jimrpa

I just flew one of these updated deathtraps (in F) and was not terribly impressed. The FAs were not happy with it either. The bins in F are weird - I've never seen this type of bin before - you have to put your bag in flat, then tip it up. There's a diagram on the back of the bin. The FA was giving people instructions and she was definitely NOT happy. Apparently, the bins were not designed by engineers, as it's not clear how the last bag would ever fit in the bin, since bags have to be tipped into position for storage. The passenger service unit is intended to look apple-like and modern, with a white, shiny plastic and icons that light up and appear only when needed (such as wi-fi and fasten seat belt). The execution of the design is poor, since you can't readily see the controls for the light or the FA call button. Additionally, the PSU hangs down like some misshapen tumor from the overhead, instead of being neatly integrated in. You end up with these warts down the aisles. The lav updates are ok. It would have been nicer if they'd done a better job with the lav door so that it closed and latched while the aircraft was in-flight. Again, the FAs were aware of the issue and said they'd reported it to maintenance several times. When the aircraft is on the ground, the door closes and latches fine. When the aircraft is at altitude and pressurized, the door is misaligned and doesn't latch. So, of course, in addition to the door not locking, the lights don't come on while you're in there - it's just the dim, "night light" lighting. No temperature control for the water faucet, and it cuts off as soon as you release the tab at the top - no delay at all. I haven't figured out how you're supposed to wash your hands in that situation.

Oh, and just like the Mad Dogs, Delta showed the FAs some love and pulled the rear galleys, so FC gets to enjoy the parade'o'carts.

I suppose, on the plus side, Delta is no longer using the triangle-quilted seat covers for First Class. Another plus - it has a variant of the 73X Blue "mood lighting", which is kind of nice.