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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 11:28 pm
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IDB is very rare. And, if traveling with a DM (even on a separate reservation), I am sure you could negotiate with them to choose another person on the list. Worst worst worst case, IDB can be quite lucrative.
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 11:29 pm
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Originally Posted by PersonalFlotationDevice
And yes, there appear to be blocked seats not yet available. If an EC seat opens I'll pay for it poste-haste.
FYI: Even on a separate reservation, if traveling on the same flights, typically you can get a waiver and have that person get free EC too. (usually limited to 1 person)

It's quite simple to request @DeltaAssist
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 11:34 pm
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 5:55 am
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Originally Posted by PersonalFlotationDevice
Just booked an award ticket for my friend who is joining me in ACK over the 4th.

I have DL Diamond / MM; she has no status.

It looks like I got her the last available ticket as the return leg ACK-JFK is now showing Y0...

No seats are available for her; it says that I can try choosing a seat again at check-in.

What are the chances that she will get IDB'd, assuming she attempts to check in online and arrives early? If she is, what are the odds on getting her onto the later ACK-LGA that is also Y0?

I guess bottom line I'm worried that her award ticket and lack of status will make her a prime candidate for bumping, which will wreak havoc with her later plans--anything I can do to prevent this?
What is the date of travel? Lol...is too late to gift her Gold? The plan for the later LGA is pretty problematic because they will probably be taking vols also.

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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 7:01 am
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Originally Posted by dEagleS
IDB is very rare. And, if traveling with a DM (even on a separate reservation), I am sure you could negotiate with them to choose another person on the list. Worst worst worst case, IDB can be quite lucrative.
Not traveling with a DM - the DM will have already been there, at least in the OP's case, according to his post.
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 7:02 am
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As others have said IDB rarely happen. I believe they have to offer VBD's first and then if no takers they move to the IDB. In all my years of flying I have been on one flight that they had to IDB anybody, and that is over thousands of flights.
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 7:02 am
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Originally Posted by fti
Not traveling with a DM - the DM will have already been there, at least in the OP's case, according to his post.
I think the OP's concern focuses on the return trip back to NYC at the end of the holiday weekend.
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 7:43 am
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I'm not on the same PNR, nor on the same flight as her.

I am on the same flight as her on the way to ACK; in the event that EC is available, I might stop in the lounge and see if the agent will let me move her.
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 8:43 am
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Originally Posted by PersonalFlotationDevice
I'm not on the same PNR, nor on the same flight as her.

I am on the same flight as her on the way to ACK; in the event that EC is available, I might stop in the lounge and see if the agent will let me move her.
Why not call the DM line now and try to get her a seat in EC with you? If you wait until the airport, all EC seats may be gone.
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 8:47 am
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I believe he just mentioned that he is on a different flight than the other person altogether!
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 3:42 pm
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Originally Posted by akonradi
Normal IDB compensation is due in the event of an oversale, but not when people must be bumped to satisfy weight/balance restrictions for aircraft with 30-60 seats. Of course there can be a grey area when both events occur on the same flight and involuntary DBs must occur.

How do they get away with this? If an aircraft that seats 50 passengers has to be balanced and go out with only 35 passengers, how does it get certified to hold 50 if it can't?

Second, if it can't hold 50, why can airlines be allowed to sell that many seat to put passengers in a potential VDB situation when they won't be compensated?
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 4:46 pm
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Originally Posted by PersonalFlotationDevice
She's not disabled, so not going to try that.
GOOD for you, an honest and ethical person.
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 4:53 pm
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I just checked in for a Delta flight that had had no seats available for assignment for a month. Our entire group ended up together pretty far toward the front of the plane. I wouldn't worry. Just check in at T-24.
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by BOSavi8tr
How do they get away with this? If an aircraft that seats 50 passengers has to be balanced and go out with only 35 passengers, how does it get certified to hold 50 if it can't?

Second, if it can't hold 50, why can airlines be allowed to sell that many seat to put passengers in a potential VDB situation when they won't be compensated?
I'm guessing here. I think it's certified at 50 with a certain take off weight. When the aircraft is overfueled or fuel is "tankered" for the return trip (fuel not available or too expensive) then it might out of weight and balance. IDB isn't paid in then instance...but, VDB amounts are.
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 7:36 pm
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Originally Posted by dEagleS
I believe he just mentioned that he is on a different flight than the other person altogether!
IIRC OP and companion are on the same outbound flight (but not the same PNR) and are returning at different times.
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