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Originally Posted by TheMadBrewer
(Post 20072950)
You get the same seat :)
Usually, the higher the fare class, the fewer the restrictions (advance purchase, changes, etc.) I would say, usually not, but sometimes. There is usually no difference at all other than a higher price. There are sometimes (but nowhere near most of the time) fewer restrictions. |
Originally Posted by roknroll
(Post 20072201)
Originally Posted by HongKonger
(Post 20072183)
This is me too.
However I priced out some typical itineraries in M and B which still earns the bonus and found that B isn't that much more. If this continues to be the case maybe I'll just go B fares instead. |
Originally Posted by FlyDeltaJets87
(Post 20071974)
Delta doesn't care whether you pay for a ticket or your employer pays for it, just as long as someone is paying for it. You have customer A who generates $15k in revenue. You have customer B who generates $3k in revenue for the same amount of product. Unless customer A is a real pain in the butt, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who is more valuable to the bottom line. It may hurt some feelings, but that's life.
That's fine, if you view elite status as a country club. I've always viewed it instead as a healthy (from an ambassadorial standpoint) mix of wealthy, independent travelers; road warriors; and plucky, creative types racking up miles. I don't need to fly a single mile in a year. Work sends me nowhere and my family's right here. But I have chosen to fly, and it's nice to be rewarded - with a few comforts related to all those BIS miles - when I do it a lot. |
Originally Posted by Dovster
(Post 20072915)
Originally Posted by HongKonger
(Post 20072183)
This is me too.
However I priced out some typical itineraries in M and B which still earns the bonus and found that B isn't that much more. If this continues to be the case maybe I'll just go B fares instead. (Being higher on the upgrade list doesn't matter to me as I always make certain that my trans-oceanic flights are upgraded as soon as I purchase and, last year, managed to have all but one of my domestic flights upgraded at the same time and for no additional SkyMiles.) |
Originally Posted by dgxoxo
(Post 20072872)
Did you all resolve whether MQDs would accrue for DL flights purchased on 057/074 stock? If not, I just spoke with someone at the Platinum desk (had called in on a completely unrelated issue), but took this opportunity to ask some questions.
Will we accrue MQDs for DL flights purchased on 057/074 stock? No. The whole point is that Delta has to be able to track the spend. Hence, you have to purchase 006 stock for the MQD to accrue. A follow up question - will MQDs nevertheless accrue if a flyer has a 057/074 ticket re-issued in 006 stock? Good effing question - the agent did not know the answer, but noted it to push up the chain. Any change fees associated with the reissuance would not count. It is unclear, but more than likely, than any fare difference paid by the flyer would count (net of taxes and government imposed fees). However, it is not known at all whether the original net fare payable on the 057/074 stock would accrue for MQDs. Please note that in the course of complaining bitterly to the agent about partner redemptions, the very helpful agent noted that a new booking system is being rolled out to the agents (a few are using it already) that will make booking skyteam partner flights easier. I'm not exactly holding my breath on this one, especially since it is not slated to trickle down to delta.com. |
Originally Posted by BER Flyer
(Post 20073401)
WOW! IF this information is correct ( and we still need a formal confirmation ) THAT is a huge blow! That means you wont earn any MQD's on Delta operated flights with a DL flight number if you are not having a DL issued 006 ticket. I'm not sure if most of you understand the consequences: NO MQD's for you on ANY Alaska, AF, KL, KE; CZ, AZ... ticket even when flying DL operated and coded flights. But i still read the unclear terms on the website differently to this info from the agent.
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Not msking any quick decisions here. I will see how this pans out throughout the year....
That ssid, I think that this yesr or next may be the year of the great Sky Peso burn.... I fear further devaluation.... DL has been good to me, but it may be time to rethink this relationship. |
Originally Posted by pbarnette
(Post 20070025)
If these folks are genuinely bringing in a "fair amount of revenue" then they should have nothing to worry about.
I.M.O. the spend levels are TOO low. They should be double what they are now |
Originally Posted by TexasYankee
(Post 20072592)
Delta mission: we want your money.
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Originally Posted by pbarnette
(Post 20073446)
All of the formal guidance is clear. Not sort of clear. Clear. DL- coded flights count. Why are you trying to manufacture a problem that isn't there? The agent is wrong (shocker).
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Originally Posted by HongKonger
(Post 20072996)
DL wouldn't be making changes if they didn't think it would improve their bottom line. Their analysis must have convinced them that either they have to give out fewer benefits or thy people would spend more to retain status.
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Originally Posted by keloutwest
(Post 20072696)
Lastly: I absolutely hate United and refuse to fly them. I did a match and planned to switch in earnest this past year, but I immediately came running back to DL. But Star Alliance is GREAT. I anticipate these changes will lead to retribution by many ST partners, which will cause customer service and flexibility to deteriorate across the alliance, and eventually lead to the end of ST. That's a major bummer.
Just my 2 cents. |
Originally Posted by bubbashow
(Post 20073561)
Originally Posted by pbarnette
(Post 20070025)
If these folks are genuinely bringing in a "fair amount of revenue" then they should have nothing to worry about.
I.M.O. the spend levels are TOO low. They should be double what they are now |
Originally Posted by dgxoxo
(Post 20072872)
Did you all resolve whether MQDs would accrue for DL flights purchased on 057/074 stock? If not, I just spoke with someone at the Platinum desk (had called in on a completely unrelated issue), but took this opportunity to ask some questions.
Will we accrue MQDs for DL flights purchased on 057/074 stock? No. The whole point is that Delta has to be able to track the spend. Hence, you have to purchase 006 stock for the MQD to accrue. Will we ONLY earn MQDs for tickets purchased on 006 stock? Or do DL coded/operated flights on partner 057/074 stock also get credit? |
I wonder if the executives who decided to go with this new dollar requirement factored in how much business Delta will lose from those who barely can make elite status as it is.
WHY is there a feeling on FT that an Elite program should welcome all? It was designed to be exclusive. DL is going back to that direction now. THANK YOU DL for doing it! |
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