FA Prohibits Recline
Jul 22, 2012, 5:05 pm
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Cute.
Jul 22, 2012, 5:06 pm
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The level of entitlement that some people have on the space or amenities of other passengers is really surprising.
I haven't experienced a space-flght like this, but on more than one occasion, the person sitting behind reached through the space between my seat and the wall and slammed down the window shade - then expressed annoyance when I immediately reached over and pushed it right up again. Seriously, it's MY space and I'll do as I please in it. That means window shade open or closed at MY discretion, and seat back up or down at my discretion - and no, you can't rest your smelly feet across the back of my armrest either
I haven't experienced a space-flght like this, but on more than one occasion, the person sitting behind reached through the space between my seat and the wall and slammed down the window shade - then expressed annoyance when I immediately reached over and pushed it right up again. Seriously, it's MY space and I'll do as I please in it. That means window shade open or closed at MY discretion, and seat back up or down at my discretion - and no, you can't rest your smelly feet across the back of my armrest either
Jul 22, 2012, 5:07 pm
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It's sad that in the FC cabin, a person cannot use a laptop (consider ~15"), and the person in front cannot recline to get rest at the same time.
Jul 22, 2012, 5:09 pm
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Not quite. You pay for a FC seat and no FC seats are designated as limited recline. To be moved to a limited recline seat would mean that you are due a refund of the fare difference.
Jul 22, 2012, 5:11 pm
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Ridiculous--and wrong. If you think there is something in the Contract of Carriage that talks about how far a seat should recline, or not--find it and post it here.
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Jul 22, 2012, 5:17 pm
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Some airlines prohibit http://www.kneedefender.com/ but, unless something has changed in the past couple months, Delta is not on that list.
Jul 22, 2012, 5:19 pm
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Rather than childishly throwing out obviously irrational scenarios, why not show us where in the CoC or FAA regulations there is any requirement that DL provide the non-recline amount of space between the seat back in front and the passenger's seat? Or may I save you the time and tell you it doesn't exist?
Jul 22, 2012, 5:21 pm
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http://images.delta.com.edgesuite.ne...rriage_dom.pdf
Domestic CoC doesn't talk about: seat recline, tray table, use of a laptop computer, or "personal space".
Domestic CoC doesn't talk about: seat recline, tray table, use of a laptop computer, or "personal space".
Jul 22, 2012, 5:31 pm
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Even if one purchases an F ticket, one is not guaranteed any specific services or, for that matter, even a seat in F. The CoC allows a downgrade, but requires a refund for the cost difference: "Carriage in Alternative Cabin Delta offers to accommodate the passenger in a section of the aircraft other than that specified on his/her ticket at no extra charge; provided however that if a passenger is seated in a section for which a lower fare applies, the passenger will be entitled to a refund of the difference in fare."
Jul 22, 2012, 5:34 pm
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I agree the OP should be given a refund for at least the difference between F and Y. When I've been "downgraded" in the past, DL has been very good about refunding the fare difference.
Even if one purchases an F ticket, one is not guaranteed any specific services or, for that matter, even a seat in F. The CoC allows a downgrade, but requires a refund for the cost difference: "Carriage in Alternative Cabin Delta offers to accommodate the passenger in a section of the aircraft other than that specified on his/her ticket at no extra charge; provided however that if a passenger is seated in a section for which a lower fare applies, the passenger will be entitled to a refund of the difference in fare."
Even if one purchases an F ticket, one is not guaranteed any specific services or, for that matter, even a seat in F. The CoC allows a downgrade, but requires a refund for the cost difference: "Carriage in Alternative Cabin Delta offers to accommodate the passenger in a section of the aircraft other than that specified on his/her ticket at no extra charge; provided however that if a passenger is seated in a section for which a lower fare applies, the passenger will be entitled to a refund of the difference in fare."
Jul 22, 2012, 5:35 pm
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http://images.delta.com.edgesuite.ne...rriage_dom.pdf
Domestic CoC doesn't talk about: seat recline, tray table, use of a laptop computer, or "personal space".
Domestic CoC doesn't talk about: seat recline, tray table, use of a laptop computer, or "personal space".
It's a contract. It's easy to read. It's been attorney reviewed, vetted, challenged and Schumered. It applies.
Jul 22, 2012, 5:39 pm
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But for the FA's incorrect request, the OP would not have moved. While it would be within DL's discretion, an passenger who choses to move so as to not pick a fight with an ill-informed FA should not be treated as a passenger who made a willing choice.
Jul 22, 2012, 5:43 pm
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I agree, but the OP is more likely to get something for the inconvenience as good customer service rather than technical compensation for a forced downgrade.
Jul 22, 2012, 5:44 pm
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Show me where in the CoC it says that you have a right to an informed FA?
Jul 22, 2012, 5:50 pm
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While there is no right to an informed FA, the OP did the right thing, IMO. Rather than argue with the FA, the OP did what he thought would make him most comfortable during the flight with as little disruption or conflict s possible. IMO, in doing the right thing, he was constructively removed from F and should be entitled to compensation. As someone else pointed out, in all likelihood, DL will refund the difference - likely in the form of vouchers - because it would be the right thing to do.