Power outlets
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Strange comment indeed. I fly the 738 often as a t-con. IME, sometimes the power works, sometimes not. If it doesn't work, some FA's will do a 'reset' after reaching 10,000 ft and sometimes that seems to jiggle something. BTW, it is not uncommon that it works in only one of the two seats. As often as not, I use the power from the other seat (after asking the pax, of course, and they do not want to use it) because theirs works, mine doesn't.
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The charger is rated at 1 Amp so it is about slightly more than a 100 watt light bulb, not much of draw. If the outlet is good for at least that, it must have been NFG.
Hope it works on the flight home.
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The nice thing about Delta outlets is that they will self-reset if you unplug and plug back in. I have a Dell laptop with a 90 watt external power supply. If I have the laptop configured for 'high performance', as soon as I plug in, the outlet turns off. If I do the trick a previous poster mentioned and remove the battery so as not to activate the charging circuitry in addition to the laptop's own needs, the outlet stays on. If I first put the laptop in power save mode, then plug the power brick into it, it does not reset the outlet. So I believe the threshold the seat outlets will support is in the 70 to 80 watt range.
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Strange comment indeed. I fly the 738 often as a t-con. IME, sometimes the power works, sometimes not. If it doesn't work, some FA's will do a 'reset' after reaching 10,000 ft and sometimes that seems to jiggle something. BTW, it is not uncommon that it works in only one of the two seats. As often as not, I use the power from the other seat (after asking the pax, of course, and they do not want to use it) because theirs works, mine doesn't.
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It is my understanding that gogo needs to be operational for the power to work. I would say I am at 75% w/power & gogo on the MD 88s. Two weeks ago I was told by the FA via the capt, that gogo does not work over lake erie.
But the other question would be how many Amps does your devise require I think the output is only a few amps. If you require more it will trip the breaker.
But the other question would be how many Amps does your devise require I think the output is only a few amps. If you require more it will trip the breaker.
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That is definitely too much and you were simply overloading the outlet.
The nice thing about Delta outlets is that they will self-reset if you unplug and plug back in. I have a Dell laptop with a 90 watt external power supply. If I have the laptop configured for 'high performance', as soon as I plug in, the outlet turns off. If I do the trick a previous poster mentioned and remove the battery so as not to activate the charging circuitry in addition to the laptop's own needs, the outlet stays on. If I first put the laptop in power save mode, then plug the power brick into it, it does not reset the outlet. So I believe the threshold the seat outlets will support is in the 70 to 80 watt range.
The nice thing about Delta outlets is that they will self-reset if you unplug and plug back in. I have a Dell laptop with a 90 watt external power supply. If I have the laptop configured for 'high performance', as soon as I plug in, the outlet turns off. If I do the trick a previous poster mentioned and remove the battery so as not to activate the charging circuitry in addition to the laptop's own needs, the outlet stays on. If I first put the laptop in power save mode, then plug the power brick into it, it does not reset the outlet. So I believe the threshold the seat outlets will support is in the 70 to 80 watt range.
Sometimes the planes have outlets in the galleys which are more well serviced and have higher amp ratings. You could also try the outlets in the bathroom if you are really in a pinch, but I think they are even more tightly clamped (30w?)
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Not to be rude, but anyone truly requiring the use of supplemental oxygen should not be traveling by airplane. Yes, the flight attendants have oxygen available for emergency use, but it is expensive to maintain and is not a passenger convenience item.
I would not count on power outlets on airplanes working, the technology is not consistently available and implemented, and even if the airplane has it, there could be aircraft swaps prior to the flight or it could be MEL'd (documented and repair deferred, as it is not a no-go item).
I would not count on power outlets on airplanes working, the technology is not consistently available and implemented, and even if the airplane has it, there could be aircraft swaps prior to the flight or it could be MEL'd (documented and repair deferred, as it is not a no-go item).
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Did you notify Delta in advance or just assume that this was all going to work out? Honestly I would call them NOW for the return and explain your need. Don't just "assume" it's all going to work. If you are going to need this system or a back up then you need to be more proactive IMHO.
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Not to be rude, but anyone truly requiring the use of supplemental oxygen should not be traveling by airplane. Yes, the flight attendants have oxygen available for emergency use, but it is expensive to maintain and is not a passenger convenience item.
I would not count on power outlets on airplanes working, the technology is not consistently available and implemented, and even if the airplane has it, there could be aircraft swaps prior to the flight or it could be MEL'd (documented and repair deferred, as it is not a no-go item).
I would not count on power outlets on airplanes working, the technology is not consistently available and implemented, and even if the airplane has it, there could be aircraft swaps prior to the flight or it could be MEL'd (documented and repair deferred, as it is not a no-go item).
Passengers using supplemental O2 fly all the time. But they generally make arrangements with the airline in advance so the O2 is avaialble and at thier seat....
Perhaps we should leave the medical advice to the flyer's doctor?
That said I think that the OP needs to contact Delta before thier next flight and not just assume "it will all work out" that's the scary part here. Not the need for O2
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I would not count on power outlets on airplanes working, the technology is not consistently available and implemented, and even if the airplane has it, there could be aircraft swaps prior to the flight or it could be MEL'd (documented and repair deferred, as it is not a no-go item).
If as Tentseller says it is limited to 75 Watts, it is insufficient to power the particular Portable Concentrator we typically use.
Thanks to all with factual info about the capacity and capability of the power outlets. BTW, on the trip back, the outlets worked fine, unlike the trip out, but without sufficient current to run to O2 Concentrator. It did charge my iPhone.

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Perhaps the provider of your equipment provides a power supply that draws 80 watts or less.



