Any DTW-YUL Commuters ?
Apr 26, 2012, 11:10 pm
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Any DTW-YUL Commuters ?
I am going to be a weekly commuter for next 4 to 5 months. Delta is the only one with non stop service and charges are so high (lowest is around 600)
I did look at YQG-YUL , you get to save $50 but for that you are flying through Toronto plus need to cross the border etc etc...not worth it.
Any other options ? I looked at buying miles but 25K from Delta is around $900
Jay
I did look at YQG-YUL , you get to save $50 but for that you are flying through Toronto plus need to cross the border etc etc...not worth it.
Any other options ? I looked at buying miles but 25K from Delta is around $900
Jay
Apr 26, 2012, 11:25 pm
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The last few years DTW/YUL fares have really gone up. And I think now all the planes are RJ's with no first class, so no upgrade possibility.
YYZ is also really expensive. It's a LOT cheaper for me to just drive to windsor and take VIA rail. I can ride in first class on VIA for a lot less than it is to fly and I also save a lot of money on cab fare since I get dropped off downtown.
Did you try checking porter air out of windsor?
YYZ is also really expensive. It's a LOT cheaper for me to just drive to windsor and take VIA rail. I can ride in first class on VIA for a lot less than it is to fly and I also save a lot of money on cab fare since I get dropped off downtown.
Did you try checking porter air out of windsor?
Apr 26, 2012, 11:43 pm
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The last few years DTW/YUL fares have really gone up. And I think now all the planes are RJ's with no first class, so no upgrade possibility.
YYZ is also really expensive. It's a LOT cheaper for me to just drive to windsor and take VIA rail. I can ride in first class on VIA for a lot less than it is to fly and I also save a lot of money on cab fare since I get dropped off downtown.
Did you try checking porter air out of windsor?
YYZ is also really expensive. It's a LOT cheaper for me to just drive to windsor and take VIA rail. I can ride in first class on VIA for a lot less than it is to fly and I also save a lot of money on cab fare since I get dropped off downtown.
Did you try checking porter air out of windsor?
I did a lot of Windsor - Toronto on VIA and loved it but don't think I can put up with all the way to MTL considering I am trying to work Mon-Fri and spend the weekend with family here in DTW.
Apr 27, 2012, 6:24 am
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DL and AC can be very comfortable with a duopoly on that route. They're really the only logical carriers: a 3rd party fighting DL on one end and AC on the other is going to burn money fast. This scenario plays out on hundreds of city pairs a day in the U.S. and Canada.
Unless your YUL business is well southeast of the city it probably doesn't make sense to try using BTV. Fares aren't that much cheaper, really.
Unless your YUL business is well southeast of the city it probably doesn't make sense to try using BTV. Fares aren't that much cheaper, really.
Apr 27, 2012, 6:49 am
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Via all the way to MTL takes all most a day (well like 9 to 11 hours) and First Class tickets cost around 500. Porter from Windsor with stop over in Toronto is around 550 and Air Canada is also around the same amount.
I did a lot of Windsor - Toronto on VIA and loved it but don't think I can put up with all the way to MTL considering I am trying to work Mon-Fri and spend the weekend with family here in DTW.
I did a lot of Windsor - Toronto on VIA and loved it but don't think I can put up with all the way to MTL considering I am trying to work Mon-Fri and spend the weekend with family here in DTW.
Even going there for fun, VIA is too long of a trip for me.Commuting to YUL would be a pain. It's a very expensive trip, no upgrades on that trip, and the mileage is so low it is hard to get enough miles to be at a decent elite level.
Apr 27, 2012, 8:38 am
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DL and AC can be very comfortable with a duopoly on that route. They're really the only logical carriers: a 3rd party fighting DL on one end and AC on the other is going to burn money fast. This scenario plays out on hundreds of city pairs a day in the U.S. and Canada.
Unless your YUL business is well southeast of the city it probably doesn't make sense to try using BTV. Fares aren't that much cheaper, really.
Unless your YUL business is well southeast of the city it probably doesn't make sense to try using BTV. Fares aren't that much cheaper, really.
Interestingly I was able to price Tango Plus fair on AC web site which came to around 350 (w 1 stop over in Chicago or Toronto)
Looks like only Delta has the non stop between DTW-YUL
Apr 27, 2012, 9:54 am
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I wouldn't discourage you from investigating alternatives, but I've had enough misconnects at ORD to sway me from overflying Detroit by forty minutes, waiting for a connection, and flying back. Doing that twice per r/t for $250 in savings? No thanks.
Apr 27, 2012, 12:27 pm
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Via all the way to MTL takes all most a day (well like 9 to 11 hours) and First Class tickets cost around 500. Porter from Windsor with stop over in Toronto is around 550 and Air Canada is also around the same amount.
I did a lot of Windsor - Toronto on VIA and loved it but don't think I can put up with all the way to MTL considering I am trying to work Mon-Fri and spend the weekend with family here in DTW.
I did a lot of Windsor - Toronto on VIA and loved it but don't think I can put up with all the way to MTL considering I am trying to work Mon-Fri and spend the weekend with family here in DTW.
Apr 27, 2012, 1:22 pm
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I am a consultant but I work on fixed bid projects so expenses directly hit my pocket. For now I will just do the Delta DTW-YUL as I budgeted.
End of the day I need to put a $ value on my hours and its not worth VIA or DTW-YUL through YYZ (Keep in mind not only you change flights at YYZ you have to go through US immigration and YYZ US immigration lines can be nutty in some days)
Its just crazy I have to pay the same amount for an hour long flight when for same amount I can fly to Europe.
End of the day I need to put a $ value on my hours and its not worth VIA or DTW-YUL through YYZ (Keep in mind not only you change flights at YYZ you have to go through US immigration and YYZ US immigration lines can be nutty in some days)
Its just crazy I have to pay the same amount for an hour long flight when for same amount I can fly to Europe.
Apr 27, 2012, 1:44 pm
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Did you consider getting a Porter Pass? Getting a book of 10/20/50 one-way flight coupons would lock-in your costs for the duration of the project, and you would rack up FF benefits pretty quickly. YTZ is a pretty nice airport for connections, and definitely not a zoo like its big brother.
I know you weren't thrilled about using YQG, but depending on where you live, taking the tunnel to/from Windsor might be as quick as driving/parking at DTW.
I know you weren't thrilled about using YQG, but depending on where you live, taking the tunnel to/from Windsor might be as quick as driving/parking at DTW.
Apr 27, 2012, 4:05 pm
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Depending on your location in metro Detroit, don't overlook Windsor. Porter is a very pleasant ride, Island airport is a nice connecting point, they have lots of Toronto-Mtl flights and the Porter Pass mentioned above might well give you some predictability in flights.
Apr 27, 2012, 4:19 pm
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With that many trips you should look into getting Nexus which includes US Global Entry.
Windsor/Toronto or Toronto/Montreal train is OK by themselves. It gets to be quite a long ride combined on one trip.
US CBP at YUL is much more bearable than US CBP at YYZ T3 unless you have Nexus.
If you have bidded the project with an all in price you should seriously consider using PD with the flight pass to control your cost/profit. Domestic transfer at YTZ is simple.
Windsor/Toronto or Toronto/Montreal train is OK by themselves. It gets to be quite a long ride combined on one trip.
US CBP at YUL is much more bearable than US CBP at YYZ T3 unless you have Nexus.
If you have bidded the project with an all in price you should seriously consider using PD with the flight pass to control your cost/profit. Domestic transfer at YTZ is simple.
Apr 27, 2012, 8:15 pm
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Looked at Porter Pass, a 20 Pack of one way is $5,590. This works out to $559 Return.
Leaving Sunday night, Coming back Thursday night on Porter is $502.
Delta DTW-YUL is $580 and its a non stop flight.
Air Canada is at around $500 when you do YQG-YUL through YYZ.
I budgeted $600 for flights so I will stick to DTW-YUL on Delta. Just need to book it in advance.
The good news is I am using AirBnb and finding some very good deals on fully furnished apartments (not just a couch).
Leaving Sunday night, Coming back Thursday night on Porter is $502.
Delta DTW-YUL is $580 and its a non stop flight.
Air Canada is at around $500 when you do YQG-YUL through YYZ.
I budgeted $600 for flights so I will stick to DTW-YUL on Delta. Just need to book it in advance.
The good news is I am using AirBnb and finding some very good deals on fully furnished apartments (not just a couch).
Apr 27, 2012, 10:08 pm
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Yep, I am looking at that option also. They call it "McGill Ghetto" on the housing ads , i am from Detroit and here 'ghetto' is some where you don't want to step in.