F waitlist question
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F waitlist question
I have a domestic trip coming up in Jan and I am on a K fare. I used miles to upgrade and 3 of the 4 legs have cleared. I didn't clear on the first leg of the inbound which is a redeye on a 24F config 757 which I had expected b/c EF didn't have any G availability showing at the time of booking. EF is now showing 9 seats as occupied and 15 as open with G0, V0.
I know V codes and G code availability are two different things and for this situation I should care about G availability opening up. My question is... If I'm currently on the UG waitlist, will G availability always open up as V availability opens up closer to the upgrade window? Or is it possible that V becomes available and G doesn't? Who has priority for UG?... a DM or PM 5 days out going for V upgrade or someone upgrading with miles already on waitlist going for a G upgrade?
Happy New Year!
I know V codes and G code availability are two different things and for this situation I should care about G availability opening up. My question is... If I'm currently on the UG waitlist, will G availability always open up as V availability opens up closer to the upgrade window? Or is it possible that V becomes available and G doesn't? Who has priority for UG?... a DM or PM 5 days out going for V upgrade or someone upgrading with miles already on waitlist going for a G upgrade?
Happy New Year!
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G inventory may become available a week or two before the flight, but I have observed cases where close to the DM window V becomes available but never G. Hence DMs and PMs would be upgraded before you as you are not competing for the same inventory space. In this case, assuming that you have also requested the Medallion free upgrade, you might be upgraded if V is available at your window. You have a reasonably high fare code and this plane has a large FC cabin, but of course it depends on whether this is an elite heavy route and the day and time of your travel.
At the airport, all remaining FC seats are available for upgrade and there is a single upgrade list. If you were a DM or PM upgrading with a SWU that is correctly coded, you would be at the top of the list, IIRC ahead of full Y fares and just behind folks with paid or award FC tickets waiting for FC seat assignments, a group that can be large when IROPs happen. I believe that upgrades with miles are in the same category as SWU upgrades, but I do not recall seeing the code mentioned for GMs, FOs, or nonelites requesting upgrades with instruments.
At the airport, all remaining FC seats are available for upgrade and there is a single upgrade list. If you were a DM or PM upgrading with a SWU that is correctly coded, you would be at the top of the list, IIRC ahead of full Y fares and just behind folks with paid or award FC tickets waiting for FC seat assignments, a group that can be large when IROPs happen. I believe that upgrades with miles are in the same category as SWU upgrades, but I do not recall seeing the code mentioned for GMs, FOs, or nonelites requesting upgrades with instruments.
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At the airport, all remaining FC seats are available for upgrade and there is a single upgrade list. If you were a DM or PM upgrading with a SWU that is correctly coded, you would be at the top of the list, IIRC ahead of full Y fares and just behind folks with paid or award FC tickets waiting for FC seat assignments, a group that can be large when IROPs happen. I believe that upgrades with miles are in the same category as SWU upgrades, but I do not recall seeing the code mentioned for GMs, FOs, or nonelites requesting upgrades with instruments.
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G inventory may become available a week or two before the flight, but I have observed cases where close to the DM window V becomes available but never G. Hence DMs and PMs would be upgraded before you as you are not competing for the same inventory space. In this case, assuming that you have also requested the Medallion free upgrade, you might be upgraded if V is available at your window. You have a reasonably high fare code and this plane has a large FC cabin, but of course it depends on whether this is an elite heavy route and the day and time of your travel.
At the airport, all remaining FC seats are available for upgrade and there is a single upgrade list. If you were a DM or PM upgrading with a SWU that is correctly coded, you would be at the top of the list, IIRC ahead of full Y fares and just behind folks with paid or award FC tickets waiting for FC seat assignments, a group that can be large when IROPs happen. I believe that upgrades with miles are in the same category as SWU upgrades, but I do not recall seeing the code mentioned for GMs, FOs, or nonelites requesting upgrades with instruments.
At the airport, all remaining FC seats are available for upgrade and there is a single upgrade list. If you were a DM or PM upgrading with a SWU that is correctly coded, you would be at the top of the list, IIRC ahead of full Y fares and just behind folks with paid or award FC tickets waiting for FC seat assignments, a group that can be large when IROPs happen. I believe that upgrades with miles are in the same category as SWU upgrades, but I do not recall seeing the code mentioned for GMs, FOs, or nonelites requesting upgrades with instruments.
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You might find an agent or two that will make this happen; however, policy is that if a mileage upgrade does not clear by T-24 then it will NOT clear.
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Aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, thank you. That makes sense. I know for international that SWU and miles upgrades aren't equivalent in that during all the discussion about any remaining BE seats being given at the gate to elites on the SWU waitlist, miles upgrades were never mentioned but I never do these and thus have never realized that the same is true for domestic flights. I guess it must partly be an issue of verifying and pulling the miles at the last minute.
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