Speculation: 2012 SkyMiles Program Changes?
#76
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Location: LAX/BOS/HKG/AMS/SFO...hmm, I need a life.
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Avidflyer, Hilton ran rollover for more than two years, the reason quite frankly that they ended it was that quite a lot of people are simply not very smart and were easily confused by it (which was amazing to behold, just look back at the old threads on the subject). In any case you are comparing Apples to Oranges as the HH system was a different animal altogether. In any case, if all ends up being equal eventually as you contend, why does it bother you so much?
Hfly, I was not comparing the Hilton program to DL literally just pointing out the gimmick factor. As a perfect example; I have been a HH Diamond since 2000. I knew roll-over was there but apparently more than 2 years () so it meant absolutley nothing to me. I stay 150 nights a year at HH like clockwork so I don't even check to see if I am still HH DM because I know I am. That is really what I am trying to say...at the end of the day if you are going to fly 125k or stay 60 nights you are. Unless your stays/flights swing wildly from year to year it really gives you nothing.
And just to be clear: It does NOT bother me at all. I just think that to most people in the program it has very little real impact other than the physiological bump on Jan 1 to see MQMs in the bank.
#77
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So if that is the case then there is no harm. There are some of us however that like the security of knowing that if for whatever reason their travel lessens for a year that they have some backup. Also, if no other airline has a carrot, then one might as well build up ones carry forward MQM's.
#78
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I am VERY concern that we did not see any of the 2012 program benefits yet. All major US-based programs announced them already, and so did the big non-US ones. I am concern we will see negative changes with retroactive affect (for tickets booked before the changes were established).
#79
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So if that is the case then there is no harm. There are some of us however that like the security of knowing that if for whatever reason their travel lessens for a year that they have some backup. Also, if no other airline has a carrot, then one might as well build up ones carry forward MQM's.
#80
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#81
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Don't forget that the program will be revised periodically throughout the year, to stay ahead of all of us "gamers."
#82
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Am I a fool to think most of the program will be the same? At least roll-over and CB?
Per:
https://www.delta.com/skymiles/about...ance/index.jsp
Text says miles earned in 2012 rollover to 2013...
Per:
https://www.delta.com/skymiles/about...ance/index.jsp
Text says miles earned in 2012 rollover to 2013...
#83
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Chicago
Programs: UA 1K, HH Diamond
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Am I a fool to think most of the program will be the same? At least roll-over and CB?
Per:
https://www.delta.com/skymiles/about...ance/index.jsp
Text says miles earned in 2012 rollover to 2013...
Per:
https://www.delta.com/skymiles/about...ance/index.jsp
Text says miles earned in 2012 rollover to 2013...
#84
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Madison. WI. USA
Programs: Delta Diamond 3 MM, Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium Elite, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 7
Here is the 2012 SkyMiles Program
#85
Join Date: Dec 2009
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True
yes, so true, but expect the SKYBONUS lies from the folks in ATL., I think they just call the lies 'marketing enhancements' !.