Actual Miles Flown vs Distance Pt A to B
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airport_reference_point
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Here is my son's flight path on a LGA-ORD flight last summer. This section is about 100 miles east of ORD. They finally had to divert to IND, refuel, and then fly to ORD.
And no, he got nothing but the standard 733 miles between LGA and ORD
And no, he got nothing but the standard 733 miles between LGA and ORD
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My issue is that they should clearly state if its Pt to Pt or if its based on actual miles flown. Simply saying that its complicated and a nightmare to track is not a good reason as why it should this metric is not used. I am almost certain that the metric of actual miles flown is captured on each and every flight. The question is if the airline is using pt to pt they should clarify it clearly in the T&C. The current T&C below does not clearly state if it is based on distance travelled or distance measured.
On nonstop and direct flights, mileage credited will be calculated based upon the distance from origin to final destination, regardless of the number of stops.
On nonstop and direct flights, mileage credited will be calculated based upon the distance from origin to final destination, regardless of the number of stops.
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My issue is that they should clearly state if its Pt to Pt or if its based on actual miles flown. Simply saying that its complicated and a nightmare to track is not a good reason as why it should this metric is not used. I am almost certain that the metric of actual miles flown is captured on each and every flight. The question is if the airline is using pt to pt they should clarify it clearly in the T&C. The current T&C below does not clearly state if it is based on distance travelled or distance measured.
On nonstop and direct flights, mileage credited will be calculated based upon the distance from origin to final destination, regardless of the number of stops.
On nonstop and direct flights, mileage credited will be calculated based upon the distance from origin to final destination, regardless of the number of stops.
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My issue is that they should clearly state if its Pt to Pt or if its based on actual miles flown. Simply saying that its complicated and a nightmare to track is not a good reason as why it should this metric is not used. I am almost certain that the metric of actual miles flown is captured on each and every flight. The question is if the airline is using pt to pt they should clarify it clearly in the T&C. The current T&C below does not clearly state if it is based on distance travelled or distance measured.
On nonstop and direct flights, mileage credited will be calculated based upon the distance from origin to final destination, regardless of the number of stops.
On nonstop and direct flights, mileage credited will be calculated based upon the distance from origin to final destination, regardless of the number of stops.
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As far as I know the odometer pre-dates the GPS and all frequent flyer programmes. I am also fairly certain that every airplane has one. Needless to say fairly airlines track this metric religiously.
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I am also fairly certain that every airplane has one.
Needless to say fairly airlines track this metric religiously.
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It says "the distance from origin to final destination," not "the distance flown on your partucular flight" or "the distance traveled on the average trip."
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The real fun is if you have a "direct flight" (but not non-stop) for say ATL-DAY. You get miles for the straight line between ATL-DAY..but you actually stop in CVG to switch planes but you do not get the 500 minimum miles for the CVG-DAY leg because Delya coded it as a "direct flight"
Good times
Good times
Why must common sense be so uncommon?!?!?!?!?!
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2. I've flown perhaps 30 other light aircraft. None have had odometers.
3. You could theoretically set the GPS to keep a running record of your ground track mileage. In fact, my plane may even do this. But, it is an irrelevant figure that no one cares about except as a novelty.
4. An odometer works because the wheels spin on the ground and have a known circumference. Therefore you can calculate the distance they have travelled over land. Please explain how you think this concept applies to aircraft. The rest of us are dumbfounded.
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Why stop there?
Clearly we should be credited with the mileage flown through the air, including the diagonal distances for climbs and decents as well as an accounting for the fact that distances traveled at ~30,000 feet are more than the distances traveled over the ground due to the curvature of the earth.
Clearly we should be credited with the mileage flown through the air, including the diagonal distances for climbs and decents as well as an accounting for the fact that distances traveled at ~30,000 feet are more than the distances traveled over the ground due to the curvature of the earth.