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sky303 Nov 14, 2011 6:17 am

NRSA Question
 
I have a question regarding NRSAs: Can an employee purchase tickets as a revenue passenger and also make an NRSA booking on the same flight so as to allow for a choice of seats.

Example: An employee purchases a Y-class seat on ATL-DXB (because they MUST get to DXB for whatever reason with certainty) and also makes a non-rev booking on that flight. That way if the flight goes with empty J-class seats, he can claim them as a non-rev and get the extra comfort, almost like an upgrade, and conversely if there are no seats available, he still has his original coach seat to get to DXB on time.

zsmith2 Nov 14, 2011 6:33 am

I'll answer your question anyway but this is not the venue....simple answer NO. It's a good way for privileges to be taken away.

sky303 Nov 14, 2011 6:46 am


Originally Posted by zsmith2 (Post 17446041)
I'll answer your question anyway but this is not the venue....simple answer NO. It's a good way for privileges to be taken away.

Sorry, wasn't quite sure where to put the post... Thanks for responding so quickly. It did sound like a fishy notion anyway, so it's not surprising that it can result in loss of benefits.

I just wanted to know, because I'm booked on ATL-DFW as revenue, because my parents are divorced so when I travel with my father (an employee) or alone it's NRSA, but with my mother it's generally revenue. I just wanted know, because I would have made an NRSA booking in addition just to get F if it was available, as I knew I wouldn't be upgraded as I hold no status.

Figured it was best to ask first, as I couldn't find anything definitive anywhere else (turns out it wasd best to do so). Thanks again.

dc333 Nov 14, 2011 6:53 am

Please don't tap on the glass and stir up the animals here.

It's a calm Monday morning.

BaskGal Nov 14, 2011 6:56 am

This would actually be grounds for termination...not just suspension of pass privileges.

zsmith2 Nov 14, 2011 7:01 am


Originally Posted by dc333 (Post 17446131)
Please don't tap on the glass and stir up the animals here.

It's a calm Monday morning.

Lol very true lets not start the week off on the wrong foot :D

PRWeezer Nov 14, 2011 7:07 am


Originally Posted by dc333 (Post 17446131)
Please don't tap on the glass and stir up the animals here.

It's a calm Monday morning.

:D

In general, your father (the employee) should answer questions like this for you, or at least look up the policies for you which would quickly give the answer from the official source.

sky303 Nov 14, 2011 1:21 pm


Originally Posted by PRWeezer (Post 17446198)
:D

In general, your father (the employee) should answer questions like this for you, or at least look up the policies for you which would quickly give the answer from the official source.

I suppose, but seeing as he's currently out at TGU for work and service is spotty at best and the trip is coming up soon, I figured (and correctly so) that I would get a faster answer, and an accurate one, from the experienced and generally reliable folks here at FT.


Originally Posted by dc333 (Post 17446131)
Please don't tap on the glass and stir up the animals here.

It's a calm Monday morning.

Not sure where you're trying to go with this, I was just unsure about usage of pass privileges in this situation and wanted some [clearly needed] clarification before I took any action.


Originally Posted by BaskGal (Post 17446148)
This would actually be grounds for termination...not just suspension of pass privileges.

Again, another good reason to ask about this before I took any action. Thanks for clarifying. Like I said I thought it sounded a little fishy, so I was just making sure that I couldn't do so.

Medeski Nov 14, 2011 1:56 pm


Originally Posted by sky303 (Post 17448754)
Not sure where you're trying to go with this, I was just unsure about usage of pass privileges in this situation and wanted some [clearly needed] clarification before I took any action.

A large amount of posters on this forum hate DL employees (and specifically their benefits) to the point where topics like this create a firestorm that nothing good comes out of

DLdweeb Nov 14, 2011 2:01 pm


Originally Posted by Medeski (Post 17449021)
A large amount of posters on this forum hate DL employees (and specifically their benefits) to the point where topics like this create a firestorm that nothing good comes out of

Not true at all. A large number of posters here hate it when Shena rears her ugly head. When the rules are followed, I suspect most everyone is happy.

Medeski Nov 14, 2011 2:04 pm


Originally Posted by DLdweeb (Post 17449066)
Not true at all. A large number of posters here hate it when Shena rears her ugly head. When the rules are followed, I suspect most everyone is happy.

Fair enough but the amount that do are very vocal about their hatred for all things DL

Vuelos Nov 14, 2011 2:08 pm


Originally Posted by DLdweeb (Post 17449066)
Not true at all. A large number of posters here hate it when Shena rears her ugly head. When the rules are followed, I suspect most everyone is happy.

I suspect you are wrong

hfly Nov 14, 2011 2:12 pm

It has nothing to do with hating employees. In this scenario, the employee will simply be terminated, the same that would happen at most airlines, this is one of the worst things that an employee can do and no airline forgives it.

Medeski Nov 14, 2011 2:13 pm


Originally Posted by hfly (Post 17449132)
It has nothing to do with hating employees. In this scenario, the employee will simply be terminated, the same that would happen at most airlines, this is one of the worst things that an employee can do and no airline forgives it.

We arent talking about this specific scenario but employee benefits / scenarios as a whole.

bennos Nov 14, 2011 2:42 pm

OK, I'm curious... why is this a cause for termination?
  • If J goes out full but not Y, the revenue Y seat would be used and the J listing fails.
  • If J is not full but Y is, the airline banks the change fee, the J listing gets used, and one fewer person gets op-up'd or IDB'd.
  • If neither J nor Y are full, then the airline banks the change fee (assuming non-refundable Y) and the J listing gets used.
  • If both J and Y are full, the J listing fails and the Y ticket is subject to normal oversell procedures.

What am I missing? Does this mess with the revenue management projections somehow?


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