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WidgetKid Nov 14, 2011 2:47 pm
Originally Posted by bennos (Post 17449368)
OK, I'm curious... why is this a cause for termination?
  • If J goes out full but not Y, the revenue Y seat would be used and the J listing fails.
  • If J is not full but Y is, the airline banks the change fee, the J listing gets used, and one fewer person gets op-up'd or IDB'd.
  • If neither J nor Y are full, then the airline banks the change fee (assuming non-refundable Y) and the J listing gets used.
  • If both J and Y are full, the J listing fails and the Y ticket is subject to normal oversell procedures.

What am I missing? Does this mess with the revenue management projections somehow?
What you're missing is there is no change fee - a person can change an NRSA listing as many times as they want to without paying anything, and it doesn't cost any money to list as an NRSA, hence the reason we're called NRSA (Specifically the NR part - just in case you don't know what it stands for, it stands for Non Revenue Space Available). If J is open, the NRSA gets it free of charge.

fti Nov 14, 2011 2:57 pm
Originally Posted by Medeski (Post 17449083)
Fair enough but the amount that do are very vocal about their hatred for all things DL
There are also such staunch allies of DL who think DL can do absolutely nothing wrong. Apparently you already know both exist, from your comment on another thread.

Originally Posted by Medeski (Post 17448994)
And FTR, I had another account on this forum that dated back to 2005 but was ran off by DL haters who chose to attack me personally as they couldnt counter my posts.

sky303 Nov 14, 2011 3:00 pm
Originally Posted by WidgetKid (Post 17449409)
What you're missing is there is no change fee - a person can change an NRSA listing as many times as they want to without paying anything, and it doesn't cost any money to list as an NRSA, hence the reason we're called NRSA (Specifically the NR part - just in case you don't know what it stands for, it stands for Non Revenue Space Available). If J is open, the NRSA gets it free of charge.
This is where I was confused, because while it sounds a bit fishy, I couldn't see any way in which it would harm the company, just that that don't want to get gamed (even though it means they get revenue from a passenger who for all they know would otherwise go without paying).

BaskGal Nov 14, 2011 3:08 pm
I'll just throw this scenario out......What if 10 employees purchase refundable tickets...and then choose to NRSA on a flight? Well, if they all get on using their passes, that would leave 10 open seats that could have been sold to 10 revenue passengers. The airline (any carrier) would lose out on revenue...

In regards to the OP, NRSA benefits are not applicable to any sort of "upgrade". Misuse of your benefits would result in termination.

OP--Enjoy your trip and enjoy the confirmed seat! When you get a chance, you may want to get more details from the employee.

tennreb Nov 14, 2011 3:15 pm
DL could actually make a lot of money if they allowed this. Let's say I book a revenue ticket in Y for $900 going ATL-CDG and also list as a nonrev in J. DL already has my nonrefundable $900 whether they seat me on the plane as a revenue or nonrev passenger. If I book as nonrev only, they are only getting taxes/fuel surcharges. I'm only taking up one seat either way. I suppose nonrev passengers could do this legally by booking on another airline. Say you are going JFK-IST. Both DL and Turkish have flights about the same time. Buy a ticket on Turkish and see if it looks like you are going to get a seat on the Delta flight in J.

bennos Nov 14, 2011 3:35 pm
Originally Posted by WidgetKid (Post 17449409)
What you're missing is there is no change fee - a person can change an NRSA listing as many times as they want to without paying anything, and it doesn't cost any money to list as an NRSA, hence the reason we're called NRSA (Specifically the NR part - just in case you don't know what it stands for, it stands for Non Revenue Space Available). If J is open, the NRSA gets it free of charge.
But OP wasn't asking about 2 NRSA listings, OP was asking about 1 revenue ticket and 1 NRSA listing, so a change fee would presumably apply to the revenue ticket if the NRSA listing were instead used.

So I remain confused.

gelaro Nov 14, 2011 3:39 pm
On international flights (ATL-DXB), since there is no medallion upgrade available, wouldn't an employee get upgraded even if they are on a revenue ticket? Wouldn't that make this whole discussion moot?

Doc Savage Nov 14, 2011 3:40 pm
This looks like a thread whose points have been addressed completely.

PRWeezer Nov 14, 2011 3:57 pm
Originally Posted by Doc Savage (Post 17449766)
This looks like a thread whose points have been addressed completely.
Indeed. OP, go back to post #2 from zsmith2. Read no further. Enjoy your trip!

Originally Posted by zsmith2 (Post 17446041)
I'll answer your question anyway but this is not the venue....simple answer NO. It's a good way for privileges to be taken away.

obscure2k Nov 14, 2011 4:01 pm
Originally Posted by Doc Savage (Post 17449766)
This looks like a thread whose points have been addressed completely.
Exactly right ^ Locking this up.
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