International Upgrades at gate
Sep 22, 2011, 6:50 am
#31
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Added: I've had 50 or so TATL Y legs the past five years, all on low fare classes and I have gotten one op-up from KLM (AMS-LAX) and one "phantom upgrade" MEM-AMS at the tail end of that program on NW. None at all on the 16 or so DL metal legs. I guess I am chopped liver
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Sep 22, 2011, 8:13 am
#32
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Oct 13, 2011, 5:11 pm
#33
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I've heard...
So two fellow Diamonds on two separate occasions have told me that they were upgraded from deep discount to BE on trans-Atlantic flights. I have my first non-BE flight coming up in October (JFK-FRA). Can anyone say they've seen the same? Seems hopeful that I've heard this from multiple independent sources... Not looking forward to a 9 hour Steerage class flight....
Oct 13, 2011, 5:59 pm
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So two fellow Diamonds on two separate occasions have told me that they were upgraded from deep discount to BE on trans-Atlantic flights. I have my first non-BE flight coming up in October (JFK-FRA). Can anyone say they've seen the same? Seems hopeful that I've heard this from multiple independent sources... Not looking forward to a 9 hour Steerage class flight....
Oct 13, 2011, 11:23 pm
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So Delta willingly flies with empty seats in BE to protect their revenue from BE customers? Are they unique among big carriers in doing this?
I've asked at check-in for other airlines on the possibility of paying for a 1 class upgrade. BA were the last to do this for a $500 (PE->Biz) trans Atlantic. I only see Delta missing out on revenue here and wasting space. Last minute Y fares are generally a similar price to full BE fares so you can't have someone swapping out there ticket too quick.
I've asked at check-in for other airlines on the possibility of paying for a 1 class upgrade. BA were the last to do this for a $500 (PE->Biz) trans Atlantic. I only see Delta missing out on revenue here and wasting space. Last minute Y fares are generally a similar price to full BE fares so you can't have someone swapping out there ticket too quick.
Oct 14, 2011, 1:41 am
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Oct 14, 2011, 8:28 am
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Seems to me the SWU certs are close to useless. The only fares those are upgradable from are so closely priced to BE/First, most companies these days either book most logical lowest fare or BE. I haven't book YBM in so long, I don't even remember.
Anyone have experience with this?
Anyone have experience with this?
Oct 14, 2011, 8:39 am
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Seems to me the SWU certs are close to useless. The only fares those are upgradable from are so closely priced to BE/First, most companies these days either book most logical lowest fare or BE. I haven't book YBM in so long, I don't even remember.
Anyone have experience with this?
Anyone have experience with this?
Oct 14, 2011, 8:54 am
#39
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For future reference, if an upgrade to Business Class is purchased on KLM the Economy Comfort surcharge will be refunded.
Oct 14, 2011, 9:01 am
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So two fellow Diamonds on two separate occasions have told me that they were upgraded from deep discount to BE on trans-Atlantic flights. I have my first non-BE flight coming up in October (JFK-FRA). Can anyone say they've seen the same? Seems hopeful that I've heard this from multiple independent sources... Not looking forward to a 9 hour Steerage class flight....
Oct 14, 2011, 9:12 am
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ORD-CDG for travel less than a week away without a Saturday night stay
There is a Delta B fare, BPXE1, that is SWU/mileage upgrade-eligible at $2685 r/t before taxes and surcharges.
The lowest confirmed Business Elite fare is D2FFUS at $8853. The lowest J-booking fare is $12664.
There are often discounted Business fares that aren't too much (maybe $500-$1000) more than upgradeable coach fares, but airlines (not just Delta) make those generally unattractive to business travelers with restrictions like 7-day minimum stays and 50-day advance purchase.
There's all sorts of discussion regarding SWUs and Business Elite 'protection' in this sticky thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...nt-thread.html
Oct 14, 2011, 9:46 am
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Oct 20, 2011, 2:09 pm
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I keep seeing posts about the oversold situation however I have been placed in BE x2 JFK-LHR. Not sure if its just luck but I recall seeing empty seats in E.
What is the consensus on TPAC upgrades? I was thinking of doing ATL-NRT-BKK in December.
What is the consensus on TPAC upgrades? I was thinking of doing ATL-NRT-BKK in December.
Oct 20, 2011, 4:46 pm
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I have recently seen TPAC M fares in the $4800 - $5600 range. A TATL M RT under $3000 has become very rare.
Oct 20, 2011, 5:12 pm
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"Flying time is 8 hrs and change. You'll be on a 757 so at leastt you'll have AVOD in Y. Enjoy. "
Actually they are 767 now, old birds they got from Gulf Air I think.
So far I had 8 TATL this year, I got upgraded once. (I am DM)
Actually they are 767 now, old birds they got from Gulf Air I think.
So far I had 8 TATL this year, I got upgraded once. (I am DM)