AMEX/DELTA "Free" companion ticket worthless
#16
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: CVG,SDF,LEX
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As other’s have said, I don’t think your getting a true “A fare” to “A fare” comparison. The certificate is good for A, D, L, U, T fares – period. If in your search you have pulled up an A fare + Others – odds are you got 2 legs with an A + an I or S fare in the mix. This is a big no can do with the reserve certificate. Be flexible and you’ll find a fare that works for your certificate - it’s just not easy to find sometimes.
FWIW, I find the best deals for the certificate are on the L, U or Ts to high cost destinations.
FWIW, I find the best deals for the certificate are on the L, U or Ts to high cost destinations.
#17
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: BNA/SAN
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#19
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CT
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Just tried pricing. JFK-LAS in Nov.
With cert 1750, without cert 2100. So for $350 in savings my companion loses 6800 MQM's and RDM's. While it is a savings (except for the loss of miles), it is NOT a two for one, it's a two for one point seven five.
With cert 1750, without cert 2100. So for $350 in savings my companion loses 6800 MQM's and RDM's. While it is a savings (except for the loss of miles), it is NOT a two for one, it's a two for one point seven five.
#20
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I really wish Delta would get this fixed... this has been a problem ever since they added P fares, and then got worse earlier this year for some reason.
The companion cert is supposed to price as a normal A fare as the x-UP that you could find by a normal first class fare search. However, the system seems to like picking much more expensive full Y fares depending on the route and putting them into the A inventory, as well as the "refundable" fares.
If you try calling you get transferred a few times to the promotions desk and an agent who often comes up with some crap about the cert using a true A fare and not an x-UP... however this is no such thing as a "true A" fare. ALL A fares (as well as all P fares fares) are based on an -UP. A is an inventory bucket that a -UP books into. So don't let an agent tell you that lie, since last year I used my cert companion A cert and it booked as H-UP. This year I couldn't use it online and had a mess for a while with the cert pricing as 3x the normal A fare so contacted someone on the inside who helped and had a real supervisor agent look into it, and magically the fare pricing got corrected and they booked the ticket and it came in as the normal first class fare which was a B-UP in this situation.
The companion cert is supposed to price as a normal A fare as the x-UP that you could find by a normal first class fare search. However, the system seems to like picking much more expensive full Y fares depending on the route and putting them into the A inventory, as well as the "refundable" fares.
If you try calling you get transferred a few times to the promotions desk and an agent who often comes up with some crap about the cert using a true A fare and not an x-UP... however this is no such thing as a "true A" fare. ALL A fares (as well as all P fares fares) are based on an -UP. A is an inventory bucket that a -UP books into. So don't let an agent tell you that lie, since last year I used my cert companion A cert and it booked as H-UP. This year I couldn't use it online and had a mess for a while with the cert pricing as 3x the normal A fare so contacted someone on the inside who helped and had a real supervisor agent look into it, and magically the fare pricing got corrected and they booked the ticket and it came in as the normal first class fare which was a B-UP in this situation.
#21
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 1
YOU ARE 100% Correct...
I will go on record stating - Delta officially SUX...
I have almost 1M miles with Delta - and have been a triple platinum and Diamond Med member....
I started my own biz 2 years ago and grounded myself a bit - and lost my status (thank god)!
I JUST went to use a Delta Reserve companion ticket and Delta is showing once again that they don't care about the passenger...
$1282 R/T from ATL to SFO in October --- total - 2500 for 2 people 1st class
With Companion Ticket --- $2382 - So BASICALLY - I am buying 2 R/T Tickets on Delta...
YEAH _ NO --- I'll use another airline before I let this type of BS fly...
Glad to be able to still have the Air Canada perks --- at least flying Coach with them is 100% better than flying any class with Delta...
They are becoming the NEW United...
I have almost 1M miles with Delta - and have been a triple platinum and Diamond Med member....
I started my own biz 2 years ago and grounded myself a bit - and lost my status (thank god)!
I JUST went to use a Delta Reserve companion ticket and Delta is showing once again that they don't care about the passenger...
$1282 R/T from ATL to SFO in October --- total - 2500 for 2 people 1st class
With Companion Ticket --- $2382 - So BASICALLY - I am buying 2 R/T Tickets on Delta...
YEAH _ NO --- I'll use another airline before I let this type of BS fly...
Glad to be able to still have the Air Canada perks --- at least flying Coach with them is 100% better than flying any class with Delta...
They are becoming the NEW United...
#22
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,079
I will stick up for the OP in saying that the Reserve companion cert has recently significantly lost its value for me. In the past, as long as there was an A fare -- any A fare -- I have been able to book it using the cert.
Now that it is all through the system, you can go to book the A fare, yet when you indicate you are using the cert, the fare (still in A bucket) skyrockets and it no longer is worth trying to use the cert at all. I have tried it in numerous markets. Eventually you are able to find one where the A fare without the cert is not much lower than with, but that is rare.
I agree that the cert has very little value to me whatsoever. FWIW, I have never tried to use it to fly in Y, and wouldn't.
Now that it is all through the system, you can go to book the A fare, yet when you indicate you are using the cert, the fare (still in A bucket) skyrockets and it no longer is worth trying to use the cert at all. I have tried it in numerous markets. Eventually you are able to find one where the A fare without the cert is not much lower than with, but that is rare.
I agree that the cert has very little value to me whatsoever. FWIW, I have never tried to use it to fly in Y, and wouldn't.
#23
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SMF
Programs: Delta PM, Hyatt D
Posts: 416
Alaska Airlines has a similar certificate to use with their VISA card. Much easier and transparent product to use. I have used the Delta AMEX certificate a couple times as well and what a pain. I can usually make it worth while but it requires a lot of searching. Delta AMEX have a much different approach to "customer service" than Alaska and VISA.
#24
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: NYC
Programs: DL PM, DL MM
Posts: 4,246
You should call and ask to speak with the promotion desk. They seem to have many glitches with this recently.
I too ended up online coming up with ridiculous fares, but when I called in the fare was fair.
I too ended up online coming up with ridiculous fares, but when I called in the fare was fair.
#26
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CT
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#29
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not "worthless" by any means: SEA-ATL-MSY/MSY-MSP-SEA, desired dates in early May; return flight is about 2 hrs later than ideal but still at a civilized time; $342 all-in for two with EC seats
unfortunately no UGs on these tickets (SEA-ATL is a BE-configured (26J) 763)
unfortunately no UGs on these tickets (SEA-ATL is a BE-configured (26J) 763)
#30
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Wife is riding for free with me to HOU as we speak. A third ticket (also X) was the same price as my ticket. So sometimes it works out...for me, to the tune of $450.